TheQuietFella wrote: » I would argue that cyclists shouldn't be on motorways, dual carriageways & on some streets in Dublin City Centre but they are & controls should be in place to prevent them from using lanes without ANY consideration for fellow road users & they are none. I'm irritated when cyclists cycle narrow roads in packs which prevent motorists from moving past them safely!
Spook_ie wrote: » Why should we stop sharing between pedestrians and cyclists, there are obvious parallels between allowing shared use of roads by cyclists and heavier traffic, but for some reason cyclists, in general, seem content to allow that situation when it suits them. Is it, yet again, a case of some cyclists wanting something. So everyone should concede to their point of view?
Spook_ie wrote: » There's nothing inherently wrong with having to proceed slowly and with caution, as a motorist I'm often driving at sub 20 kph on roads, roads where if I wished I could probably do the speed limit but experience has taught me better
TheQuietFella wrote: » I would argue that cyclists shouldn't be on motorways, dual carriageways & on some streets in Dublin City Centre
CramCycle wrote: » If you can't overtake a line of cyclists two abreast safely, then you can't overtake a single line of cyclists with the same number of cyclists safely either. Unfortunately some road users do not realise this and see a single line of cyclists as an invitation to overtake regardless of road conditions.
Macy0161 wrote: » This, plus it's actually easier to overtake, for example, 20 cyclists riding two abreast than it is to overtake 20 cyclists in a long line. The group effectively halves the time you have to be the wrong side of the road.
TheQuietFella wrote: » I'm irritated when cyclists cycle narrow roads in packs which prevent motorists from moving past them safely!
RainyDay wrote: » I'm irritated when long lines of cars prevent me from cycling safely, as about 1 in every 10 cars takes up a position that blocks cyclists filtering safely on the inside.
Spook_ie wrote: » It's only dangerous if you aren't paying attention or cycling too fast for the conditions, just like non segregated motorised traffic not paying attenion or driving at inappriate speeds.
CramCycle wrote: » No parallels at all, roads have sides and general rules for movement, indication, behaviour. Sidewalks do not, there is no way to know what way a pedestrian will move no matter how slow you are travelling. <snipped>
Carawaystick wrote: » Or cycling too slow, when you fall off.
Spook_ie wrote: » Beg to differ, and if you actually observe cyclists, so many of them behave like pedestrians and exhibit random movements. I'm sure if a Traffic Engineer studied them that the movements make some kind of sense,but in the context of following traffic signs and routes many cyclists exhibit a random nature on the road
beauf wrote: » This would seem appropriate. Apologies if its old news.http://www.boredpanda.com/bicycle-automobile-protest-lets-bike-it/
Pinch Flat wrote: » Have to hand it to you. You could replace the word 'cyclist' with 'taxi driver' above and it would nearly make perfect sense. Hats off to the driver who turned in front of me sudden and without warning off Westmorland St yesterday evening to avoid the lights at O'connell bridge. A 400 lumen light wasn't going to put him off. Gas thing was he emerged - behind me - on the south quays. Or what about the fellas at St Stephens green. They've got an ingenious system - if the rank is full, a taxi pulls in, double parks (with the hazards on - but that's ok) then reverses against ongoing traffic and into his spot when it becomes available. And also fair play to the lads outside merrion row - never one to fail to spot and opportunity to set up an impromptu rank, holding up busy traffic not going to put these fellas off.
Spook_ie wrote: » Driver turning in front of you, ignore the roof sign and it could be any car, it's not always a taxi
Spook_ie wrote: » Reversing into a space , do they not teach reverse parking to drivers now, I always thought it was a standard part of driving
Spook_ie wrote: » Merrion Row, dunno never work there, so sounds like a lack of enforcementse
Spook_ie wrote: » As to making "nearly" perfect sense that's where we differ in that mine does make sense
Reversing into a space , do they not teach reverse parking to drivers now, I always thought it was a standard part of driving
Merrion Row, dunno never work there, so sounds like a lack of enforcement
As to making "nearly" perfect sense that's where we differ in that mine does make sense
CramCycle wrote: » <snipped> Some do but not all and this insistence on trying to paint someone as a stereotype based solely on their mode of transport is quite frankly ridiculous. <snipped>
CramCycle wrote: » No parallels at all, roads have sides and general rules for movement, indication, behaviour. Sidewalks do not, there is no way to know what way a pedestrian will move no matter how slow you are travelling.
CramCycle wrote: » <snipped> It is, but as said before, reversing 25 metres on a road with traffic and alongside other vehicles which have occupants even if parked is ridiculously dangerous. If you want to reverse into a space. Stop Immediately after it and reverse in as your meant to. If there is no space present, do not stop, wait, block traffic or reverse a distance against the flow of traffic. <snipped>
Pinch Flat wrote: » <snippedd> Seem to be popping up every where around the city these days. Westland row (in a cycle lane) is another favourite. <snipped>
Spook_ie wrote: » You sure that Westland Row is a cycle lane? I'm not, must have a closer look next time I'm in the cityhttps://www.google.ie/maps/@53.3465629,-6.2590801,3a,75y,205.42h,72.52t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sHChHqmjvImPEjkdtMDIQFg!2e0
Jawgap wrote: » Looks like it to me https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Westland+Row,+Dublin,+Co.+Dublin+City/@53.3434972,-6.249682,3a,90y,149h,80.8t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sYfbmYNC3vSrLonMHzRz3UA!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x48670e910113b6f7:0xa73a79b5037a3583!6m1!1e1
Pinch Flat wrote: » I edited from Westmoreland St to Westland row. Under the railway bridge. Edit jawgap has the correct location.
Cycle Tracks Cycle tracks operate on a 24 hour basis unless otherwise indicated on a time plate. A mandatory cycle track is indicated by a solid white line. Vehicles other than a cycle or mechanically propelled wheelchair may not use a mandatory cycle track. A non mandatory cycle track is indicated by a broken white line. No parking allowed except while actively loading/unloading a maximum of 30 minutes
cython wrote: » Worth noting that Westland Row southbound has been relined since that picture and the cycle lane is now designated by a solid line, but only seems to be one at certain times (can't recall the specific range offhand), but it makes no odds since plenty of delivery drivers, etc. have no issue in stopping or even parking in it when it should be one (I can recall checking the time several times I have seen them).
Spook_ie wrote: » Note the broken line on the RHS of the cyle lane, RRM023 ( from memory so forgive me if off ) denotes a shared facility. Now I do think that there could well be a problem with taxis queuing there, however, as it's not a mandatory cycle lane other than breaking a parking restriction/plying for hire restriction they aren't actually breaking a cycle lane restriction.http://www.dsps.ie/?page_id=27https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.3439204,-6.2494045,3a,37.5y,171.64h,84.92t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sJEXzzgZbgHKn_I55YGxALA!2e0
Pinch Flat wrote: » I think that photo is old. It's a actually an unbroken solid line now. So a mandatory lane. Although it is given over to parking at weekends. When people obviously don't cycle (can't do roll eyes on phone)
Spook_ie wrote: » So I gather from cythons post. Must have a gander next time I'm in Dublin as I've actually never seen a time plated mandatory lane yet. Given though the street is double yellows I'd be surprised it being given over to parking:- me neither have to settle for a :-P Edit Jeebus even that doesn't work
Spook_ie wrote: » Yeah times are Mon-Sat 7-10 and 12.30 -19.00 Didn't notice any parking restrictions, yellow lines etc., but I was driving so needs double checking, but at 10.01 someday, maybe I'll do some shopping. If I do, I'll look forward to somebody posting complaints about a taxi being parked in the cycle lane On a serious note, I don't like lanes being marked as mandatory at certain times of the day, either make it a cycle lane or not, same as bus lanes should be bus lanes or not
monument wrote: » I hope somebody calls the clampers on you -- you're not allowed to park inside a solid white centre line on a street with just one traffic lane (unless there's marked parking spaces).
(2) A vehicle shall not be parked— ( a ) on that side of a section of roadway along the edge of which traffic sign number RRM 008 [double yellow lines] has been provided; ( b ) on a section of roadway where traffic sign number RUS 019 [No Parking sign] has been provided, during the period indicated on the information plate accompanying such traffic sign; ( c ) within 5 metres of a road junction;( d ) on a section of roadway with less than 3 traffic lanes and where traffic sign number RRM 001 [continuous white line] has been provided; ( e ) on a section of roadway where traffic sign number RUS 020, in association with RRM 029 [appointed stand], has been placed to indicate that an appointed stand has been provided; ( f ) in any place, position or manner that will result in the vehicle obstructing, delaying or interfering with the entrance to or exit from a fire brigade station, an ambulance station or a Garda station; ( g ) in any place, position or manner that will result in the vehicle obstructing an entrance or an exit for vehicles to or from a premises, save with the consent of the occupier of such premises; ( h ) within 15 metres (on the approach side) or 5 metres (on the side other than the approach side) of a section of roadway where any of the following traffic signs have been provided— (i) traffic sign number RPC 001 [Pedestrian Crossing]; (ii) traffic sign number RPC 002 [Pedestrian Crossing Complex]; or (iii) traffic sign numbers RTS 00I, RTS 002, RTS 003 or RTS 004 [traffic lights]; ( i ) on a footway, a grass margin or a median strip; ( j ) on a part of a roadway which is a casual trading area, during hours of trading, unless the vehicle is for the time being in use for the purposes of casual trading; ( k ) in a manner in which it will interfere with the normal flow of traffic or which obstructs or endangers other traffic; ( l ) where traffic sign RUS 031 [bus stop] or RRM 030 [stopping place or stand] has been provided unless the vehicle is an omnibus.
