emo72 wrote: » you know how it works....never ever ever admit you are wrong, even when you majorly **** up. tierney should resign. he is presiding over a shambles. wont make things better, we just shouldnt be rewarding failure.
Barely There wrote: » Signed up a couple of days ago. Suspect that the compliance levels will surprise you - there's a largely silent majority who recognize that the tax base needs to be broadened, in fact it should have been decades ago. The minority in this country who refuse to accept this realty have made so much noise whinging and whining, that they've convinced themselves they're in the majority. In for a rude awakening I'm afraid (again).
Irish Steve wrote: » If that's the case, why have we not seen some serious reporting and engagement from the management at IW, there is NOTHING on their web site that gives any indication of their levels of activity. In many respects, for a major organisation, their web site is a disgrace, and totally lacking in real information about what they do, and how. They're also not even close to meeting their targets for responding to people, they should be able to at least acknowledge receipt of a mail message in 5 days, even if they can't deal with the issue immediately, but that's not happening, I'm now 10 days out on an issue that has nothing to do with water or metering or billing. If they have hit the ground running, fair play, but they've certainly not covered themselves in any sort of glory so far, I fully understand only too clearly the neglect of the local authorities, we've suffered from it here big time and at significant personal expense, but as I mentioned, there were no votes in water or waste water treatment, so the political influence to spend money on "visible" projects was unstoppable, which is why it's so essential to get water completely out of the political sphere, and why it was so wrong to put ex semi state people in at the top, as their entire culture and ethos is so wrong for IW. In some areas, 10 years is probably too short a time scale for sorting some of the more serious issues that are now becoming visible. If IW have not received bonuses, then that is at the moment appropriate, but the media seem to be saying otherwise, although I suppose that anything in the media needs to be taken with a big dose of reality, they may well be jumping on to a band wagon without fully checking the validity of the story.
Anatom wrote: » The problem with the ex-semi-state people being "put" into IW, was that - like it or not - they are the only people with the knowledge of the water system in this country. You can't just parachute inexperienced people into a situation like that.
Anatom wrote: » I can't copy the link here for some reason, but The Irish Times website has a piece on it this morning. The media have not exactly been impartial in much of the reporting on this issue, as is their wont. To be fair, the IW spokeswoman has been out on the likes of Matt Cooper, Pat Kenny and Johnathan Healy on a regular basis, as well as a special Prime Time programme a number of months ago. She has consistently outlined the activity that they are undertaking.The problem with the ex-semi-state people being "put" into IW, was that - like it or not - they are the only people with the knowledge of the water system in this country. You can't just parachute inexperienced people into a situation like that.
listermint wrote: » That is complete fabrication, You put out a job spec and requirement. I am sure there are hundreds over lower level managers involved in each county that could have interviewed well and had the required knowledge of their local systems. Instead as per usual in this country we got 'treated' to the Highest level 'retirees' many of whom (not all) many of whom have nearly criminal level history in failed projects and mispends of public monies. But sure feed us the line that we 'need' them and they are the only ones that can do the job... Iv heard that somewhere before. Perhaps it was to do with the banks. Impartial interview process..... it was not.
Irish Steve wrote: » Something along the lines of "If I stop and actually THINK about the whole process of purifying water, and delivering it to the tap, and then taking the waste water, and treating it to make it once again safe, the cost of under HALF A CENT per litre ( with NO ALLOWANCES TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION) is not unreasonable, and is a LOT less than the cost of buying bottled water to flush the loo (FFS).
animaal wrote: » I'm coming around a little to the idea of charging for water. It's being done for revenue generation reasons, and if they don't charge for water, they'll create or increase some other tax anyway. We're being told to think of water as a utility like electricity or gas. I wish they had structured the charges to be more like electricity. With electricity, I pay a flat charge for the provision and maintenance of infrastructure, and a separate fee for each unit of electricity that I consume, reflecting the cost of producing that unit. Why not do the same with water? A flat fee for the infrastructure, with the cost per litre reflecting the cost of processing? By lumping the cost of infrastructure onto the per-litre price, it exaggerates the costs of a family using extra water. And vice-versa for an empty house with minimal use.
FREETV wrote: » The water here in Meath stinks and is undrinkable, it tastes of chemicals. When the electric shower is turned on the Chlorine gas would almost choke you it is so bad so why should people pay for that water? Who here is marching on November 1?
mojesius wrote: » I'll be marching, just as I was on October 11th. The water tastes the same in my flat (Dublin 1). I have to buy the cheap centra 2L water, which works out at just over 300 euro a year. So IW can get f*cked if they think I'm paying more. If they provide me with drinkable tap water, then I might consider signing up to their 'service', minus my PPS number. Someone here previously recommended I boil it and stick it in the fridge but it still tastes awful. Anyone who comes around to my flat and drinks it says the same, so it's not me being fussy. Also, my mam, dad and sister all live in separate houses on meters. I'm supposedly on the assessed rate. My mam asked IW what is to stop all the family calling over to mine to do the washing, cleaning, showering etc. IW didn't have an answer and said they'd get back to her. That was a month ago. They clearly haven't got a clue, they're bunch of cowboys and I'll have nothing to do with them.
dxhound2005 wrote: » You are the cowboy. Like in the wild west, no regard for the law. Plenty here have openly admitted that they would not pay their property tax until the Revenue took it off them. Just wasting everyone's time. No regard for law and order. Cowboys.
listermint wrote: » Yee Haa, giddee up. Love Westerns. Cowboys always won.
FREETV wrote: » The water here in Meath stinks and is undrinkable, it tastes of chemicals. When the electric shower is turned on the Chlorine gas would almost choke you it is so bad so why should people pay for that water?
mojesius wrote: » Also, my mam, dad and sister all live in separate houses on meters. I'm supposedly on the assessed rate. My mam asked IW what is to stop all the family calling over to mine to do the washing, cleaning, showering etc. IW didn't have an answer and said they'd get back to her. That was a month ago.
mojesius wrote: » Also, my mam, dad and sister all live in separate houses on meters. I'm supposedly on the assessed rate. My mam asked IW what is to stop all the family calling over to mine to do the washing, cleaning, showering etc. IW didn't have an answer and said they'd get back to her. That was a month ago. They clearly haven't got a clue, they're bunch of cowboys and I'll have nothing to do with them.
mojesius wrote: » Also, my mam, dad and sister all live in separate houses on meters. I'm supposedly on the assessed rate. My mam asked IW what is to stop all the family calling over to mine to do the washing, cleaning, showering etc. IW didn't have an answer and said they'd get back to her. That was a month ago. .
Little CuChulainn wrote: » The water in Meath is fine.
FREETV wrote: » No it isn't, my Parents say otherwise too and haven't drunk the tap water for 20 years and it is full of lime, smells and tastes vile.
Rubberchikken wrote: » Probably a stupid question but if IW hasn't all the details ironed out what the hell did those consultants do to 'earn' 50 million euro? The shambles that is I W makes the Three Stooges look like Stephen Hawking.
