AlekSmart wrote: » There has always been an Urban/Rural divide in Irish society,which many like to think disappeared when we got all educated...well,It did'nt,indeed,if anything it has become far more deeply embedded into our society. I would see this divide as nothing more than reality at work,with most Irish people being more than capable of dealing with it.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » There is quite a difference to Gardai removing protesters who bully/intimidate men going about their work and who cause criminal damage to private property and calling for politicians to be whipped and stoned in public or for people to bring fireworks to a mass protest that will be packed with women, kids and pensioners :rolleyes:
Behaviour involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.
Banjo String wrote: » I don't think you understand the word "violence" and what it means to be perfectly honest. Have a read here.http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/violence So when you advocate pepper spray, baton charged, water canon, or (a woman) Someone be thrown in her back and handcuffed, all those actions, whether carried out by protesters, or the Gardai would be So, yeah you're also advocating violence so get off your high horse there mister Saint Timberrrrrrrr of arc.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » So if a guard sees some knackbag mugging an old lady he should approach with arms outstretched and in a calm voice ask him to please stop? Gardai using reasonable force ("violence") to prevent a crime is fine with me Lynching/stoning politicians and bringing dangerous explosives to a massive protest where women/children and pensioners are going to be present is not. If you cannot see the difference then you truly do live in a fantasy world.
Banjo String wrote: » Violence is violence, it is a word used to describe "Behaviour involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something." It doesn't matter who is the perpetrator or the receiver, surely you can see that?
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » So you are saying that if the law is being broken gardai should not have the option to use reasonable force to stop it?
Banjo String wrote: » No, I'm showing you how you're showing extreme hypocrisy. Don't claim the moral high ground, and use the rolly eye emoticon, followed by a post saying something along the lines of "so your advocating violence" when you've been advocating it yourself in this and many other threads.
Little CuChulainn wrote: » I'm interested in this claim that Gardai are acting outside their constitutional remit by protecting the workers of a private company. I'd be interested in where in the constitution this is set out. And more importantly, what effect will it have on all those peoples who have been convicted of robberies in places like Paddy Powers.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » Lol the pathetic pedantry in your posts is embarrassing at best, Your attempt to liken the use of (legal) reasonable force by the countries security forces to prevent crimes being committed to the calls of some to hang and stone politicians and bring explosives to a mass protest is beyond reasonable and yet again shows the true colours of some the no side.
Banjo String wrote: » There is absolutely nothing pedantic about pointing out how someone is being hypocritical. Fyp. 100,000 last Saturday. Never heard anyone recommending violence once.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » Yet one of your crowd wants people to bring fireworks to the next one :rolleyes:
renegademaster wrote: » show us this one person who's calling on people to bring fireworks to the protests. also, when did a good fireworks display = violence?
Originally Posted by FREETV View Post If the Public give in to these thugs in the Dail and start paying for water then they will only have themselves to blame when in the near future Irish Water will be sold and the water prices will sky rocket. Why because they are as corrupt as hell! Only an idiot would believe a word that spews out of there mouths. Enda has a smirk akin to CJ.Maybe people should keep a few fireworks for the marches on Nov1 Nationwide. Gardai would love those!
Barely There wrote: » My work takes me all around the Country. Meters are being installed in the vast majority of areas without any issues at all. There are protests in a few small enclaves which are a fraction of 1 percent of the total. The idea that these protests represent some kind of popular uprising of the public is laughably embarrassing. This time next month the idiots behind these actions will have gotten bored and be back down in the bookies or the pub.
Gatling wrote: » Bringing illegal fireworks to protest always works then again any injuries would be blamed on the big bad Gardai, But I'm sure there's plenty out there who wouldn't have an problems using them
FREETV wrote: » The protest crowd is increasing and not waning as only the gullible will fall for Enda and his cohorts slight of hand spin and lies and corrupt cronyism. The water here isn't fit for consumption or I wouldn't have to be buying bottled water for drinking now for over ten years. It is because of corruption and mismanagement that the pipes and leaks weren't fixed during and after Bertie's reign. Mess after mess and they really have the Country almost up in arms because of the Irish Water fiasco and forced austerity and water charge measure. At least Sinn Fein will get rid of that insane Property Tax and inhumane water charge if they ever get in power. I wouldn't bother to pledge any allegiance and trust in the other main parties. They are only loyal to themselves, big business and the IMF and EU.
FREETV wrote: » The protest crowd is increasing and not waning as only the gullible will fall for Enda and his cohorts slight of hand spin and lies and corrupt cronyism. The water here isn't fit for consumption or I wouldn't have to be buying bottled water for drinking now for over ten years. It is because of corruption and mismanagement that the pipes and leaks weren't fixed during and after Bertie's reign. Mess after mess and they really have the Country almost up in arms because of the Irish Water fiasco and forced austerity and water charge measure.At least Sinn Fein will get rid of that insane Property Tax and inhumane water charge if they ever get in power. I wouldn't bother to pledge any allegiance and trust in the other main parties. They are only loyal to themselves, big business and the IMF and EU.
FREETV wrote: » The water here isn't fit for consumption or I wouldn't have to be buying bottled water for drinking now for over ten years.
FREETV wrote: » At least Sinn Fein will get rid of that insane Property Tax and inhumane water charge if they ever get in power.
awec wrote: » How naive are you?
FREETV wrote: » It isn't me you should be slagging off and name calling. Why don't you write to Sinn Fein or send them emails and tell them exactly what you all think about them? Ask them whether they will drop the Property Tax and Water charges. Are you going to stay loyal to the club in the Dail that is utterly corrupt and support a dedicated quango set up to make gangsters more money? Anyone who will vote for Fine Gael, Labour or even Fianna Fail in the next election are sheeple and are waiting for somebody else to do something. The water charges are a step too far.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IDpXCev5mk&list=UU24tIehLMj4ggVNcdU5FFsQ
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