crannglas wrote: » Aww god help him he only has 200 grand a year bless. And only expenses and free trips.
crannglas wrote: » I will bet ten grand if the wages came down to that level you would soon see the greedy leave and no greedy ones would become TDs in first place.
crannglas wrote: » Also no free ucd or trinity for politicians kids
smash wrote: » The rules should be: If you want to be a politician then you're not allowed be one. Greedy self serving gob****es! Also, teachers can't be politicians and you must be qualified in the field you are supposed to manage.
crannglas wrote: » Like in my post above. That's all a good thing. It would attract people who want the Job cause they want to do good for the people and country.
Wez wrote: » I actually think that paying the average industrial wage would do us a lot of good, regarding the type of people that would run for election. If nothing else, it would also mean they're a little closer to reality when making decisions.
blackwhite wrote: » You'd get sweet F.A. competent ones either. People complain now that teachers dominate the Dáil, well €60k would guarantee that teachers would be one of the few professions that would still consider running for election. Running a country is one of the most difficult jobs going - I'd like to think that Ireland should be competing for people who otherwise would be walking into highly paid jobs in businesses/global organisations if they weren't in politics (unfortunately that isn't the case with many of our politicians now - but cut the wages and it will guarantee that it never will be the case in the future either). How exactly is that a change? Politician's children have the same admissions process and registration fees as anyone else. All you're doing is displaying a rather major chip on your shoulder about certain universities.
dxhound2005 wrote: » What do you think about the motives of the private sector group who pay themselves 5 or 10 million a year. In it for the greed or what?
blackwhite wrote: » And it would primarily attract people who don't have the skill-set to run a country. It's a tough job - having your heart in the right place doesn't matter a jot if you aren't capable of dealing with the responsibilities.
Berserker wrote: » I know one county council bin man and he mustn't be doing too bad, as he goes to watch his premier league team, in England and Europe, on a very regular basis. I can't comment on poo merchant/engineers or whatever they call themselves.
smash wrote: » That's got sweet feck all to do with anything because they're not paid by the public and they have to generate that money through their own companies in order to receive it. Now go back to the dail and do whatever it is you do... Which I'm guessing is absolutely nothing!
Tail Docker wrote: » The rest of Europe and the UK seem to manage alright paying far less. Whatever about the wages, the pensions are eye-watering.
crannglas wrote: » Politician alert sirens sirens. You seem to be under delusion that people who take less money are not competent? Classy who do you work for ends?
dxhound2005 wrote: » Say they are running tobacco or gambling companies. Their activities have a deleterious effect on the population which I have to pay for in my taxes.
blackwhite wrote: » Good to see your intellect is enough that you don't immediately start name-calling when someone disagrees with you...... oh, wait :rolleyes: People who work for less money are probably perfectly competent at whatever job they do. However, a job that pays the average industrial wage or similar is not very likely to have much relevance to the skill-set required to run a country - hence, the competencies that the people your proposal would attract are not likely to be the competencies needed to run a country. Seeing as how you seem to have a chip on your shoulder about people going to university I'm going to guess that logical reasoning isn't going to work with you though...... how about "rabble, rabble, rabble" - seems more like what you'd prefer everyone on this thread just spouted instead.
blackwhite wrote: » The implication being that anyone who has the cheek to gain some skills and earn a decent living for themselves is somehow a lesser type of person, and less in touch with reality, than someone who doesn't earn as much? Pathetic, mealy-mouthed begrudgery - sounds like the nonsense we normally hear from Joe Higgins
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » I know it's not popular to say but being a politician is a very difficult job.
evo2000 wrote: » Id rather have someone with there heart in the right place making an honest effort, than sneaky under handed people more content feathering there own nest than the people there supposed to represent ! but then again honesty and politics dont go hand in hand!
evo2000 wrote: » I dont see how enda and the likes are skilled, the dail is a joke, full of blabbering idiots squabbling over petty things and personal attacks most of the time,
crannglas wrote: » God that was serious name calling there. I answered and I am correct you are incorrect.
evo2000 wrote: » You have a point, but i dont agree "best money will attract the best person for the job" id rather have someone not soley motivated by money to represent the interests of our nation.
blackwhite wrote: » The quality of debate here is astounding :pac:
blackwhite wrote: » Politicians who are honest and don't try to spin things get hammered by the media and turfed out by the electorate. Snake oil salesmen who lie, spin and spout whatever they think Joe Public wants to hear will get voted in time and again.
crannglas wrote: » No one is implying that at all. How ever polticans need to be grounded and approachable and connected to the people. Therefore a healthy wage not the wage they are on as they receive expenses also among other things. Can't be brudgery since I would do it for less. As I am sure loads who frequent boards, who show high intelligence in different areas.
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