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Milk Price- Please read Mod note in post #1

delaval

24/6/16

Recently we saw three posters close their accounts over disagreements in the dairy threads. While there is a lot of frustration and discontent with current milk prices and the processing industry, the recent tendency for dairy threads to become tit-for-tat arguments isn’t tolerable for those not involved.

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I was wondering would it be a help if we posted our milk prices. I would hope that if someone is low that help could be given, on the other hand if high perhaps your tips could help us all.

I would suggest posting your processors base inc Vat for comparison
Post your Nett price for others to help or be helped
I think that solids should be included.
I suggest any seasonal/liquid contract price be excluded or seperated.

I feel that we as farmers do a lot of bitching about processor prices and rightly so IMO. I also feel that we should not worry about it as we can do nothing about base price but we certainly do something about it at farm level.

What do you all think?

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mf240

frazzledhome wrote: »

Only contracted shareholders

No youll get it whether signed up or not.

Contract doesent apply to this year. Everybody got the 2 cent piggy bank fund in august.

mf240

frazzledhome wrote: »

2.5c drop

4.5 cent drop

Mulumpy

I think tis time ye Glanbia boys and girls signed over to Arrabawn.

frazzledhome

mf240 wrote: »

No youll get it whether signed up or not.

Contract doesent apply to this year. Everybody got the 2 cent piggy bank fund in august.

Ok, that's not my info but would make sense

frazzledhome

mf240 wrote: »

4.5 cent drop

Why not deal in facts the base price has fallen by 2.5c. This is a fact. 2c was on top of +solids price

mf240

Mulumpy wrote: »

I think tis time ye Glanbia boys and girls signed over to Arrabawn.

Lorry comes near enough to me. Infact it used to pass the gate at one stage.

frazzledhome

mf240 wrote: »

Lorry comes near enough to me. Infact it used to pass the gate at one stage.

You prob have shares in both being on the border?

mahoney_j

Mulumpy wrote: »

I think tis time ye Glanbia boys and girls signed over to Arrabawn.

Will we hold next week mulumphy?????.the way the board are pricing at moment who knows,a lot of product going into casein at moment which is returning a decent price in current markets

Mulumpy

Cant see dropping below 34 for this month anyway. Lot of Casein pre sold before drop so thats a big help. im not complaining getting an extra months work out of it this year.

mf240

frazzledhome wrote: »

Why not deal in facts the base price has fallen by 2.5c. This is a fact. 2c was on top of +solids price

Base price has fallen 4.5 cents in two months.

Price paid dropped 4.5 in one month.

Its six of one and half a dozen of the other.:):)

mf240

frazzledhome wrote: »

You prob have shares in both being on the border?

No. Thats the catch at the moment as regards moving. But im not really interested in moving and if I ever move it wont be just a knee jerk reaction.

atlantic mist

avonmore selling uth in china, three euro a carton, good to see irish product breaking into market, pity branded business has been hived out of milk processing side of things thou, any sign of branded infant formula coming direct out of ire company in future seen as most of nz plants were refused licence to export to china and our processors got approval, hope we take advantage of this after boultism scare last year

whelan2

see kerry cut the price by 3cpl to leave it at 32cpl

5live

whelan2 wrote: »

see kerry cut the price by 3cpl to leave it at 32cpl

Flagged a good while back. 2c for next month also.

And the cuts are only second in the list of hot topics down here right now;)

cute geoge

5live wrote: »

Flagged a good while back. 2c for next month also.

And the cuts are only second in the list of hot topics down here right now;)

5live

cute geoge wrote: »

K?

You weren't at the shareholder advisory meetings?:eek:

PM on the way:D

milkprofit

5live wrote: »

You weren't at the shareholder advisory meetings?:eek:

I was board and council in USA drinking free beer and price down 2.5 cents ,,no worries

PMU

5live wrote: »

You weren't at the shareholder advisory meetings?:eek:

PM on the way:D

send it to me too,I am also a shareholder,and former supplier

freedominacup

milkprofit wrote: »

5live wrote: »

You weren't at the shareholder advisory meetings?:eek:

I was board and council in USA drinking free beer and price down 2.5 cents ,,no worries

I wonder are they having pints with the glanbia boys.

5live

PMU wrote: »

send it to me too,I am also a shareholder,and former supplier

Pm sent.

The communication from the advisory section of the co-op really needs a kicking. The mushroom method of communication should be well behind us now. But still feeding us bull$hit and keeping us in the dark:mad:

loveta

Lake land cut 2 cent down to 33 now for September

whelan2

loveta wrote: »

Lake land cut 2 cent down to 33 now for September

still 2.5cpl above glanbia

mahoney_j

Arrabawn setting in next day or 2 and word on ground is somewhere between 34 and 34.5 down from35.87.

mf240

Glanbia well behind others.

Very dissapointed with there performance this year.

milkprofit

5live wrote: »

Pm sent.

The communication from the advisory section of the co-op really needs a kicking. The mushroom method of communication should be well behind us now. But still feeding us bull$hit and keeping us in the dark:mad:

The advisory chairman is not allowed call a meeting of shareholders

leg wax

mf240 wrote: »

Glanbia well behind others.

Very dissapointed with there performance this year.

and who do you think is starting to pay for all of bellview, you the dairy farmer,1-2 cents across all the suppliers ,at the start of the year new suppliers and anyone who supplied over there now qouta were going to pay a charge towards bellview ,i made a point that yes i would be prepared to pay but only at a price eg, when milk is 35 cent i could pay 2 cent,any lower i could not pay,.years ago dairy farmers were charged for collection so much a gallon,one of the carrots at the time was,we wont charge for collection,yeeee haaaaaa, all they did was drop the price of milk and they still had it covered,and you did not see it on your statement anymore.

5live

milkprofit wrote: »

The advisory chairman is not allowed call a meeting of shareholders

He doesn't have to.

But there should be an onus on informing shareholders of discussions taking place that will affect them in the future. An example is a senior manager complaining about an issue that was discussed at the shareholders meeting last year, saying it had been discussed at length. It had been, but at advisory level and none of that discussion was forwarded to the majority of shareholders at any point during the preceeding year, just presented as a fait accompli at the end.

There are issues that need to be retained at advisory level but, equally, there are issues that need to be forwarded to other shareholders at an early stage of discussions.

mf240

leg wax wrote: »

and who do you think is starting to pay for all of bellview, you the dairy farmer,1-2 cents across all the suppliers ,at the start of the year new suppliers and anyone who supplied over there now qouta were going to pay a charge towards bellview ,i made a point that yes i would be prepared to pay but only at a price eg, when milk is 35 cent i could pay 2 cent,any lower i could not pay,.years ago dairy farmers were charged for collection so much a gallon,one of the carrots at the time was,we wont charge for collection,yeeee haaaaaa, all they did was drop the price of milk and they still had it covered,and you did not see it on your statement anymore.

Agree totally.

Timmaay

For any other glanbia liquid milk supplied, are yous going with the working bands, or opting out? In general I tend to avoid fixed price schemes, and with 1/4 of my milk liquid still it's a lot of milk to be tied into the working band.

castletrader

http://www.agriland.ie/news/strathroy-cuts-3cl-september-milk/ 1c cut for stratroy .