Little CuChulainn wrote: » (1) At this time the state is still partly funding IW as it is only in its infancy however once it is properly established none of the tax take should be going towards them so you won't be paying twice.
Little CuChulainn wrote: » (2) Presumably it's down to specialisation and expertise. Or if you want, corruption and nepotism.
Little CuChulainn wrote: » (3) They do.
Little CuChulainn wrote: » (4) Because 44% of our water is lost through leaky pipes. This is what happens when you try and control national water provision at local levels and the reason a company like IW was set up.
Little CuChulainn wrote: » Summons the owner of the house. Presumably using details freely available in the register of electors and property registers.
cajonlardo wrote: » Summons the owner of a house for what exactly? I seriously doubt any clown can legally connect any foolish object their little hearts desire to my home and then have me summons for telling them to drop dead. If that was true Sky wouldn't need to advertise , nor Eircom nor any other company.
Little CuChulainn wrote: » (1) At this time the state is still partly funding IW as it is only in its infancy however once it is properly established none of the tax take should be going towards them so you won't be paying twice. (2) Presumably it's down to specialisation and expertise. Or if you want, corruption and nepotism. (3) They do. (4) Because 44% of our water is lost through leaky pipes. This is what happens when you try and control national water provision at local levels and the reason a company like IW was set up. Summons the owner of the house. Presumably using details freely available in the register of electors and property registers.
My name is URL wrote: » Bull****. You're just pathetically using the flags as a means of showing your contempt for those who protested because you can find no other reason for doing so. Sad and pathetic, and completely transparent.
Iwasfrozen wrote: » If can disconnect water from your house if you wish.
Iwasfrozen wrote: » Actually no. I have no contempt for the protesters. I have contempt for militant symbols as any sane person should.
cajonlardo wrote: » Technically the can. Legally Irish Water and numerous other sources have said they cannot. Either way it won't really affect most of us. We will just reconnect.Why do you post stuff when you know it is not true?
dxhound2005 wrote: » Don't give out legal advice here, even if you are a legal professional. I suspect you are not, because legally IW can restrict the supply and this has been approved by the Regulator. Read the legislation. Numerous other sources are wrong, just like you are wrong. And no legal professional would advise a client to interfere illegally with IW equipment. Give us your advice on how to avoid paying the bill.
Iwasfrozen wrote: » Iw can't disconnect your water for failing to pay but they can restrict supply and you can voluntarily disconnect your own water if you don't want to be billed.
My name is URL wrote: » They're both flags with a history going back far longer than when militants used them. You have no idea if the people that had them at the protest did so to support militants, you're just assuming that they do. Would you have the same issue with someone waving a Union Jack at a protest in the UK, given that so many militant and bigoted scumbags in the north also like to fly it? If you want to be outraged by anything at the protest then it should be that disgusting banner that made reference to Enda Kenny's dead mother. That's something worth taking umbrage over.
cajonlardo wrote: » A) Until you are Mod do not tell me what to post. The lie the other poster stated was that I.W could DISCONNECT the supply. You , for some reason, have chosen to twist what I stated. Could you please explain why you felt the need to twist my words? This is typical of the lucozade you lot are posting over and over. I never represented my self as a legal professional, can you please explain why you felt needed to make that up? That is not what you posted. Why do lot feel the need the lie so much?
Iwasfrozen wrote: » Oh I forgot I'm on boards.ie, it's perfectly normal to fly militant flags at a peaceful demonstration...
dxhound2005 wrote: » 1.) Correct. The cost will still be subsidised from general taxation. Like train fares. The next time train fares go up don't expect a corresponding reduction in income tax. 2.) Partly correct. Borrowing is also being used to deliver "free" water to users. Because there is a shortfall between what is raised by taxation and what has to be spent on services, including water. 3.) Unless you can prove it you should't say that nobody or everybody wants X Y or Z. Some people may consider that as the end user of the service they should pay part of the cost of water directly, just as they do for the cost of a train ticket.
Banjo String wrote: » Stop looking for any little reason to be outraged at tbh. I was in Dublin yesterday, from 1pm to 8pm, never seen anyone flying them flags, obviously I didn't get to see every little flag and emblem from the 100k that took part in the protest, so that's not to say someone, somewhere had one. I find it interesting that you linked to two digital images of the flags, rather than pictures of anyone at the protest carrying one though. Any links?
Iwasfrozen wrote: » They're flags that have been used by the IRA. Any sane person should avoid them like the plague but these people are consciously choosing to identify themselves with militant republicans.
Glock Lesnar wrote: » I'm not sure if the Aviva offer the crowd cam feature anymore but I sincerely doubt any of the Irish fans' banners warned the Llanitos to think about there actions by claiming to speak for their collectively deceased mothers. There was a sinister element in the crowd that gathered yesterday, fuelled by misdirected anger and deep-seated unhappiness.
My name is URL wrote: » So because a terrorist organisation once usurped a flag / symbol which otherwise has a longstanding history in the country, nobody else should ever use that flag / symbol again? Talk about letting the terrorists win :pac: Should Ulster cease using the Red Hand or St Patrick's Saltire in its flag.. the UVF used them after all. By your own reckoning both should be avoided like the plague.
Iwasfrozen wrote: » It's not a matter of letting terrorists win. They've already failed in every objective they set out to achieve. It's a matter of who you as a group want to be associated with and how you want the general public to view your goals and methods of achieving those goals. Advertising is very important for any movement and republican symbols in any form are marketing poison.
Happyman42 wrote: » Terrorists used toilet paper (allegedly). Are we supposed to stop using that too? Ridiculous nonsense again in fairness Iwasfrozen
Originally Posted by Glock Lesnar I'm not sure if the Aviva offer the crowd cam feature anymore but I sincerely doubt any of the Irish fans' banners warned the Llanitos to think about there actions by claiming to speak for their collectively deceased mothers. There was a sinister element in the crowd that gathered yesterday, fuelled by misdirected anger and deep-seated unhappiness.
Iwasfrozen wrote: » I'd have more sympathy for the protesters if they'd stop waving disgusting flags. Any decent people who were at the protest want to comment on this?
Vinnie L wrote: » So how much is general taxation going to be reduced by ?
Vinnie L wrote: » Could you detail this specialism and expetise for us ? and exactly what the money was spend on ?
Vinnie L wrote: » For how long ? Untill enough public money has been plowed into it to make a killing for a private company ?
Vinnie L wrote: » How does putting private meters at the end of the line, and charging us for the treatment of already leaked water, before we even get it, prevent mains leakage exactly ?
Vinnie L wrote: » And if this is true why not put all Irish assets, roads, etc. into the hands of companies ?
tayto lover wrote: » Where's the contracts the owners signed? Since when did the Register of Electors give the names of home-owners?
Little CuChulainn wrote: » You can get that info in a phone book.
Little CuChulainn wrote: » The legislation allows for Irish Water to do it. And the summons would be a civil one for failing to pay a debt. Same as if you did a job for someone and they didn;t pay.
wendell borton wrote: » It looks like the water charges will be a big election issue. When you see protest parties losing out to anti charges candidates, the future of labour looks bleak.
