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Darwin's theory

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just a question, If Darwins theory on evolution, that humankind evolved from apes, why are there still apes out there ?

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catallus

J C wrote: »

I could comment ... but this thread seems to be as confused and 'clapped out' as its subject.

But what can one say to such blinkered nescience?!

It is flabbergasting!

J C

Gintonious wrote: »

Am I having a laugh?

- Israelite conquest of Canaan
- Islamic expansion
- The Crusades
- The Thirty Year's War
- The French Revolution
- The Taiping Rebellion, and the similar Muslim one which I can't remember the name for
- WW2
- Lord's Resistance Army
- Lebanese Civil War
- Algerian War of Independence and Civil War
- Iranian Revolution
- Starting the first World War
- The pogroms

Self criticism within religion does NOT exist.

I could comment ... but this thread seems to be as confused and 'clapped out' as its subject. If this is how the AH rock and rolls ... I'm going back to A & A for a rest!!!:)

J C

kingchess wrote: »

the Burning Bush???:p

Please keep private medical issues private ... or at least under your knickers ... I'm trying to eat my dinner!!!!:)

Cianmcliam

J C wrote: »

Where has the debate on Darwins theory gone?

... is it under poe bridge ... or up crap creek?:)

Yeah it was interesting and actually going places for a while before the stand off over why earthworms excrete unused nutrients.

I have been wondering about the theory that a genetic cause for homosexuality in males persists because it made female relatives more fertile. I don't think it makes a lot of sense in the past, even if it does seem so today.

Theoretically, males can have a pretty much unlimited number of offspring as long as they can find enough mates, women are much more limited as they have the 40 weeks of pregnancy and possibly up to two years of nursing before having another child.

So while having a slightly more fertile female is positive, the potential number of children a gay male could have had is relatively massive. But these have to be written off as the gay male would not be pursuing the same number of female partners as their brothers.

I don't see it persisting over evolutionary time.

Frank Bullitt

J C wrote: »

... also sounds like devolution ... rather than evolution ... to me.

Reading this thread shows that it does happen.

J C

Cianmcliam wrote: »

See his 'The Descent of Man'

... also sounds like devolution ... rather than evolution ... to me.

kingchess

gladrags wrote: »

Agree,stop beating around the bush.

the Burning Bush???:p

J C

gladrags wrote: »

It has evolved.

... devolved ... by the sound of it!!!;)

Saipanne

J C wrote: »

Yes, the ancient Israelites were a hard-hearted people ... living among even more hard-hearted neighbours.

Where did that rule come from?

J C

rozeboosje wrote: »

Because evolution is about life changing to fit niches. Apes fit their niche, we fit ours.

... or do they choose a niche because of their pre-existing phenotype?
... and if you don't know which it is ... just tell me how many apes are occupying niches on cliffs with Eagles?:)

Cianmcliam

gladrags wrote: »

What Darwin does not touch on, is human attributes,and there evolution through time.

For example,good and evil,love and remorse.

Self destruction,wanton greed.

Attributes specific to humans.

Why?

See his 'The Descent of Man'

Frank Bullitt

gladrags wrote: »

Agree,stop beating around the bush.

Keep your expectations in check, no scientist has done this so far, so don't expect it to pop up on boards.

gladrags

Gintonious wrote: »

Ok, lets get back to it then.

Shows us proof that Evolution is not true. You made the claim, now back it up.

Agree,stop beating around the bush.

gladrags

Gintonious wrote: »

Ok, lets get back to it then.

Shows us proof that Evolution is not true. You made the claim, now back it up.

Agree,stop beating around the bush.

Frank Bullitt

I thought god did it though?

gladrags wrote: »

It has evolved.

Ha ha, classic

gladrags

J C wrote: »

Where has the debate on Darwins theory gone?

... is it under poe bridge ... or up crap creek?:)

It has evolved.

Frank Bullitt

J C wrote: »

Where has the debate on Darwins theory gone?

... is it under poe bridge ... or up crap creek?:)

Ok, lets get back to it then.

Shows us proof that Evolution is not true. You made the claim, now back it up.

gladrags

What Darwin does not touch on, is human attributes,and there evolution through time.

For example,good and evil,love and remorse.

Self destruction,wanton greed.

Attributes specific to humans.

Why?

Frank Bullitt

catallus wrote: »

Are you actually having a laugh? Seriously?

Self-criticism is one of the biggest themes in any organised religion.

Am I having a laugh?

- Israelite conquest of Canaan
- Islamic expansion
- The Crusades
- The Thirty Year's War
- The French Revolution
- The Taiping Rebellion, and the similar Muslim one which I can't remember the name for
- WW2
- Lord's Resistance Army
- Lebanese Civil War
- Algerian War of Independence and Civil War
- Iranian Revolution
- Starting the first World War
- The pogroms

Self criticism within religion does NOT exist.

catallus

M5 wrote: »

Ah yes, take credit for the good stuff but disown the bad stuff. You just proved my point about cherry picking!

The only point I've proven is the one about the malicious and craven mental-acrobatics that theophobes will go to to skew their perception of not only culture but all worldly phenomena.

J C

Where has the debate on Darwins theory gone?

... is it under poe bridge ... or up crap creek?:)

rozeboosje

Because evolution is about life changing to fit niches. Apes fit their niche, we fit ours.

catallus wrote: »

Oh boo-hoo, bad things happen in the world, let's blame the religions, who cares all the good they did, all the people they've educated, the very fabric of moral society being dependent on its edicts, yeah sure, it's all their fault.

Such wilful ignorance is astounding.

Ah yes, take credit for the good stuff but disown the bad stuff. You just proved my point about cherry picking!

Lest you forget the good stuff was reserved for people who believed the bs or those who could be bribed to convert.

The stonings etc were reserved for those who voiced the slightest reservation about the good word

J C

Saipanne wrote: »

However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

Boo hoo. Just a little slavery. What about all the good?

Yes, the ancient Israelites were a hard-hearted people ... living among even more hard-hearted neighbours.

catallus

Gintonious wrote: »

The ignorance is coming from you on this. You seem to jump over the hideous evil that religion is primarily and solely responsible on this earth, but lets just list the good things then and all will be ok.

The ignorance you show here is both sinister and pathetic, the will for being self critical still hasn't reached the religious yet it seems.

Are you actually having a laugh? Seriously?

Self-criticism is one of the biggest themes in any organised religion.

Frank Bullitt

catallus wrote: »

Oh boo-hoo, bad things happen in the world, let's blame the religions, who cares all the good they did, all the people they've educated, the very fabric of moral society being dependent on its edicts, yeah sure, it's all their fault.

Such wilful ignorance is astounding.

The ignorance is coming from you on this. You seem to jump over the hideous evil that religion is primarily and solely responsible on this earth, but lets just list the good things then and all will be ok.

The ignorance you show here is both sinister and pathetic, the will for being self critical still hasn't reached the religious yet it seems.

J C

PopePalpatine wrote: »

Yeah, I'd rather dismiss stoning women for adultery, stoning homosexuals for just being homosexuals, owning slaves, taking female prisoners-of-war as your own personal sex slave etc.

... and so would I.

PopePalpatine wrote: »

Piss off back under Poe Bridge

Why?

J C

PopePalpatine wrote: »

It's incredibly hard to convince adults with facts when they've been smothered with bullshit in their childhood.

I agree ... I have spent the best part of ten years trying to do so over on other threads ... with little apparent success.:p

Saipanne

catallus wrote: »

Oh boo-hoo, bad things happen in the world, let's blame the religions, who cares all the good they did, all the people they've educated, the very fabric of moral society being dependent on its edicts, yeah sure, it's all their fault.

Such wilful ignorance is astounding.

However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

Boo hoo. Just a little slavery. What about all the good?