Ace2007 wrote: » I'm not relying on CB's to get goals, I'm relying on them to keep CS and pick up the odd Bonus points. Chelsea are more likely to keep clean sheets than Everton. Clean sheet = 4 points, assist = 3, therefore ideally you need Baines to get 2 assists or a goal if Everton concede, to better any clean sheet that Chelsea get. Given that Baines in 7m, and you can pick up a Chelsea defender for 6m and then spend the extra 1m elsewhere, I don't see Baines as must have.
Dearg81 wrote: » That's a negative way of looking at it, the other side of that is if he does get an assist and a clean sheet he'll probably get 11 or 12 points and 14 or 15 if it's a goal and cs.
Dearg81 wrote: » I have 2 free transfers and was thinking of getting Baines in too but I'm thinking fabregas out instead to Chadli or maybe Mane from Southampton who looks very attacking for a midfielder.
Ziegler1988 wrote: » Will most likely do the same FTs :cool:. Mane most likely since Chadli has Man City A; it's an easy mistake to fix if need be with Chadli cheaper.
Dearg81 wrote: » Speaking of Baines I've just seen FFS have an article about which midfiielder to transfer out for Baines and the little jerks have obviously been stealing my ideas again!http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2014/10/07/which-midfielder-makes-way-for-baines/?utm_content=bufferd3280&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Lemlin wrote: » I have to agree with this. I generally always go with defenders who keep clean sheets. If they can score the odd goal it's a bonus but not a necessity. I actually think Everton over performed last season as a team, particularly in defence. I don't rate Martinez as a manager and it'll be interesting to see how they perform this year. Keeping their core players fit is vital for them and they are struggling to do that at the minute with Coleman, McCarthy and Pienaar all missing spells.
SantryRed wrote: » They were completely running off the defensive structure set up by Moyes from the year before. Baines and Coleman are completely overvalued at the moment. You should only be valued that much if you have the threat to keep clean sheets and score attacking points. Everton don't look like keeping clean sheets at all at the moment.
Lemlin wrote: » I agree totally. For me, Martinez showed at Wigan that he's not a good defensive manager and I'd agree with the above statement re Moyes' defensive structure. My main problem with Martinez is that he was at Wigan for years and he never built them into a solid PL side. Every year they were fighting relegation and eventually they were caught out. Other managers like Bruce, Pulis and Allardyce have shown they can take poor sides and turn them into established PL teams. Martinez couldn't do that with Wigan. And yes, before anyone says it, you could argue they sold their best players but lots of mid table and relegation threatened clubs do that.
Dearg81 wrote: » If you dont think Baines is worth the 7million which other defender would you get? I think Bertrand is probably the next best over the next few weeks although I have Clyne already.
Lemlin wrote: » I haven't looked at it in-depth to be honest. I've made plans for my own team which consist of bringing in Forster and Azpi. Ivan would be the pick of the expensive defenders for me though. Is he out of your budget?
Dearg81 wrote: » I have Ivan already. I'm planning to go with Ivan, Baines and Clyne for the next 5 fixtures. The Europa league would be the only thing stopping me form bringing in Baines as it definitely has a negative impact on results.
extra gravy wrote: » With Stones now confirmed out for 10-12 weeks, Baines is an even less attractive prospect imo. The first choice back 4 struggled to keep clean sheets never mind a defence that's now missing Distin, Coleman and Stones. I would be far from confident bringing an Everton defender into my team right now, especially one that costs £7m. I don't care how much potential Baines has for attacking points, his primary role as an FF defender is to keep clean sheets.
SlickRic wrote: » Lovren looks like he could be out a while, in case anyone is insane enough to still have a Liverpool defender.
Lemlin wrote: » Is Distin missing? I thought he had been dropped for Stones.
Lemlin wrote: » That's a huge amount of your budget spent on defence I'd imagine. What's your team?
Dearg81 wrote: » The planned first 11 would be: Mannone/Foster Baines Ivan Clyne Siggy Di Maria Sterling Mane Aguero Costa Welbeck I'm only missing out on Fabregas really who Im not worried about.
Lemlin wrote: » That's a strong first 11 alright. Who are your sub defenders and midfielder?
RossieMan wrote: » I don't see the logic with having so much invested in defence if you don't even have Fabregas or Hazard. A Chelsea midfielder is a must for me. Don't see anything in Mane either, needs a few seasons to develop.
