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Love/Hate (v2) [ Spoilers ]

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Anyone buy the DVD of S4 yet to know the music used? is for example a cover version of the byrds 'turn turn turn' used at the beginning of episode 2?

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castletownman

Loved how the young lad pronounced "crisps" as "crips".

It's the subtle nuances in dialogue and accents that makes it stand out.

walshb

castletownman wrote: »

Loved how the young lad pronounced "crisps" as "crips".

It's the subtle nuances in dialogue and accents that makes it stand out.

It's called chav speak...No nuances at all.

Ferris_Bueller

Good episode I thought, there are so many possibilities for the rest of the season.

My prediction is that Siobhan will have a big role to play this year, I can see her and Paulie hitting it off even more and Siobhan being the rat that Terrence warned Nidge about. Paulie might then attempt to kill Siobhan but due to her being a relation of Nidge plus him still feeling guilty about Tommy, I wouldn't be surprised if Nidge then had Paulie killed.

I know it was only the first episode but it seems as if Nidge is trying to keep Guinea seperate to the rest of the gang, almost as his own secret hitman. Would it be possible that he uses him further down the line for a hit on Paulie?

Will be interesting to see what happens with the travellers and Nidge, surely Fran will find out about Linda soon enough, it has been on the cards for too long now for nothing to happen.

Lovely Bloke

The kid talked like a non-traveler tbh.

Lovely Bloke

Ferris_Bueller wrote: »

I can see her and Paulie hitting it off even more and Siobhan being the rat that Terrence warned Nidge about.

Are you some kind of clairvoyant?

Oh no, it was probably the scene where she was in a car with police men, and telling them what was going on, was that what lead you to this conclusion of her being the rat?

Stinicker

Without prejudice to members of the Traveling Community, but I thought this part last night was hilarious. They are great actors and bring a great new element into the show.

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Big Game

What with the timeline jumping all over the shop and Patrick's prominence in the episode could this bring Love Hate into the genre of time traveller shows?

I'll get me coat......

BuilderPlumber

Ferris_Bueller wrote: »

Good episode I thought, there are so many possibilities for the rest of the season.

My prediction is that Siobhan will have a big role to play this year, I can see her and Paulie hitting it off even more and Siobhan being the rat that Terrence warned Nidge about. Paulie might then attempt to kill Siobhan but due to her being a relation of Nidge plus him still feeling guilty about Tommy, I wouldn't be surprised if Nidge then had Paulie killed.

I know it was only the first episode but it seems as if Nidge is trying to keep Guinea seperate to the rest of the gang, almost as his own secret hitman. Would it be possible that he uses him further down the line for a hit on Paulie?

Will be interesting to see what happens with the travellers and Nidge, surely Fran will find out about Linda soon enough, it has been on the cards for too long now for nothing to happen.

What I highlighted in bold is more than likely what will happen, leaving Siobhan again with forgive the pun a love/hate attitude to Nidge!!

Paulie is Nidge's official minder/hitman/fixer but he wants to keep Nidge alive for Terrence and not for Nidge's interests. That's why Guinea comes in useful and he has proven in series 4, episode 6 and series 5, episode 1 he is every bit as efficient as Darren at killing. I predict Guinea will dispatch of Paddy and Paulie eventually. With regard to Terrence, I think that's more than likely where Tony and the IRA come in again to help Nidge? But that may be season 6?

Fran will find out about Linda and obviously both Nidge and Paddy are guilty here. But because I think both Nidge and Fran will survive, something else happens that brings them back as friends again at the end. Perhaps, Nidge saves Fran's life or something by killing a raging Paddy and gang who are both's common enemy?

rocky1813

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

i think it's far superior to breaking bad

I agree never thought much of breaking bad.

BMJD

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

I actually thought it was quite clever.

Nidge's young fella having lice had put it into his head and when he said it to Patrick who would have a history of being discriminated against it was the thing that turned him against Nidge.

He obviously had an intention of settling it until Nidge accused his young fella of having lice and Patrick thought he was being insulted and Nidge was back-tracking

I agree there, I think the point was that they wanted to show that they could patch things up when it came to business but as soon as a (perceived) insult was made against travellers then Patrick was never going to let that go.

BuilderPlumber

Something I am curious about is Fran and the travellers. Is Fran a traveller? He in series 2 divided his time between his house with Linda and his yard/caravan. In series 3 to 5, he is always seen living in a caravan and in series 4 is seen to have close dealings with travellers. He seems to have some definite traveller blood in him and may be a settled traveller background or have a parent who is a traveller or something?

TimeToShine

The only thing that really stumped me was the travellers with GPS trackers!

LFCFan

I thought this was a very solid opening. A lot of new characters to set up, old stary arcs to straighten out (Lizzy, Dentist etc), new plot lines to get up and running (new backer, new head quarters, Paddy's revenge etc). The timeline was all over the place though. Some was prior to Spain, some in Spain and some after Spain but all in different sequences. I had to use Nidges head scar as a reference point

I reckon Fran will find out about the pipe bomb, get Paddy to make him one and use it on Nidge's house, killing or badly injuring Trish and his son and it'll be all out war between Fran and Nidge. This could be in the last episode after a lot of build up, leaving us gasping for season 6 which discussions are already underway for.

Ash.J.Williams

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Something I am curious about is Fran and the travellers. Is Fran a traveller? He in series 2 divided his time between his house with Linda and his yard/caravan. In series 3 to 5, he is always seen living in a caravan and in series 4 is seen to have close dealings with travellers. He seems to have some definite traveller blood in him and may be a settled traveller background or have a parent who is a traveller or something?

looked like a building site....like he had his living house in dublin but building a dream house in wicklow....like people do

BMJD

TimeToShine wrote: »

The only thing that really stumped me was the travellers with GPS trackers!

they are $25 on ebay/Amazon :P

I wonder why they only stuck one on the Hyundai that they used to pick up Fran in, surely they would have put it on Nidge's X5?

Stinicker

TimeToShine wrote: »

The only thing that really stumped me was the travellers with GPS trackers!

That and Nidgey's being unable to perform was the standout moment of the night for me, the fizzy orange moment of series 5 so far.

Ron DMC

This is all I could think of after last night's episode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bStYKMlBE4o

somesoldiers

TimeToShine wrote: »

The only thing that really stumped me was the travellers with GPS trackers!

the screen wasn't very impressive though

Galwayguy35

Siobhan scrubbed up well for the night out, Tommy would want to wake up fast.

Imhof Tank

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Something I am curious about is Fran and the travellers. Is Fran a traveller? He in series 2 divided his time between his house with Linda and his yard/caravan. In series 3 to 5, he is always seen living in a caravan and in series 4 is seen to have close dealings with travellers. He seems to have some definite traveller blood in him and may be a settled traveller background or have a parent who is a traveller or something?

Think you are way off track there

Fran is a hard chaw old school "me auld flower" style Dubliner.

Utopia Parkway

TimeToShine wrote: »

The only thing that really stumped me was the travellers with GPS trackers!

They are not that difficult to get.

ShagNastii

Jaysus if Fran pipe-bombed Mrs.Nidge and the son it would be mental. It’s lining up Fran VS Nidge no better way to have them than kranked up to eleven.

somesoldiers

Will the nits have much of a part to play in S5?

dirkmeister

ShagNastii wrote: »

Jaysus if Fran pipe-bombed Mrs.Nidge and the son it would be mental. It’s lining up Fran VS Nidge no better way to have them than kranked up to eleven.

Nidge said before that he couldn't give a sh!t about Trish, Warren was all he cared about.

JP Liz V1

Did Paulie go home with Siobhan?

Skullface McGubbin

Bacchus wrote: »

Oh also, the GPS tracker plan by the travellers was stupid in the end. It appeared as though it was going to be a long game, find his pattern, find where he's weak and then strike. Instead, they just had some guy follow him in a van who told them where he was and they haphazardly lynched him and his bodyguard.

Exclusive spoiler of episode 2.

Having failed to kill Nidge in their first attempt, the travellers deploy a drone to hunt him down.
When Nidge decides to use the cash to buy himself a headstone just in case, he carries it out with the help of Fran and Kieth Duffy's character. Before they get a chance to load the headstone into the van, they spot the drone which opens fire with it's mounted machine gun. It first gets Kieth's character, killing him swiftly and leaving him completely eviscerated.

Then it targets Fran. But Fran managed to survive with just wounds to his shoulder and legs. During this time, Nidge is hiding behind the headstone. The drone's operator sees Nidge's head pop up from the headstone and takes aim. Nidge quickly ducks down to avoid fire. The Drone starts firing all it's got at the headstone.

While the headstone (a very thick, solid marble one) is providing adequate protection from the machine gun bullets, it wouldn't be long before the headstone would eventually give in and break leaving Nidge vulnerable to the mounted machine gun and its high ammo capacity. So Fran takes out his gun which had only one bullet left and takes aim at the drone while it's attention was focused on Nidge.

"I have just one fukkin' shot. I have to make it count" said Fran. So he aims for the drone's weak spot (as you can tell, I don't know that much about drones

) and he shoots it which sends the drone crashing down to the ground.

Meanwhile, back at the traveller site, Patrick checks with the drone operator to see how it's going. "Well boss, did ya get him yet? " said Patrick. "Mission failed boss, mission failed" said the drone operator.

Nidge gets out from behind the heavily damaged headstone and turns to Fran and says "Jaysus! How did you even survive let alone shoot down a drone in one shot?".
Fran takes the bone of Git's finger out from his pocket and says "This, Nidgey. It's me lucky fukkin' charm".
By this time, the whole commotion attracted a crowd of bystanders looking on as the drone is in a broken mess on the ground. Nidge tells Fran "don't die on me yet. keep hanging in there.".
"Relax, Nidgey. I'll be coola boola as long as I get to hospital." said Fran.
Nidge turns to the crowd and shouts "Don't just stand there ya bleedin' muppets. Call a fukkin ambulance now!"

Fran then asks Nidge "who the fuk sent a bleedin' drone after ya anyway?".
"Them Traveller bastards." said Nidge.
"What's their beef with you Nidgey?" asked Fran. "It's complicated" said Nidge.
Nidge then says "Looks like I'll have to go back in there and get a new one."
Fran looks at the body of Kieth Duffy's character, then turns to Nidge and says "Make that two." as he points to the body.

Then, a man emerges from the crowd and it turns out to be none other than Tommy. Nidge sees Tommy and says "Tommy? You've recovered again?". "Yeah" said Tommy.
Then Tommy asks "What's the craic with that drone?". Nidge tells him "I'll explain it to ya later, alright?"

Nidge then turns to the crowd and says "Have any of you called for a bleedin Ambulance yet?"
One person in the crowd says "I did. They said the'll be here soon".
Nidge then says "Right, while we're waiting for the ambulance I'll go back in and get the headstone replaced".
Tommy asks him "Could you get me a Fizzy Orange while you're at it?".
Nidge gives Tommy a confused look and then turns to Fran who just shrugs. Then he turns back to Tommy and says "I'll get you a fizzy orange if ya help me carry the headstones."

Nidge and Tommy pick up the headstone. Nidge says "Jaysus. This headstone carrying bollocks is exhausting". Fran then remarks "I bet you'll be absolutely 'knackered' by the time you're done." (followed by a wry smile)
Nidge, Fran and the crowd burst into laughter. Poor brain damaged Tommy didn't quite get the joke but he decided to join in on the laughter anyway.

Then the Ambulance finally arrived to get Fran to hospital. the end

You've read it here first

Galwayguy35

I hope Fran finds out that Nidge was tippin Linda and then killed her, also I thought Fran was a traveller as well, wonder he doesn't get some back up from the others if he is.

Patrick showed no fear of Nidge, hope the war between them goes up a notch.

walshb

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Did Paulie go home with Siobhan?

Supposedly!

Galwayguy35

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Did Paulie go home with Siobhan?

Yes

roise2000

On a whole it was a good episode, but didn't Janet break it off with Nidge at the end of the last season over leaving Debbie and the other girl to rot in the house after they O'D?