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Cork GAA Discussion Thread

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Just thought I'd make a thread on Cork GAA seeing as noone else has made one already. Feel free to talk about anything about Cork GAA, especially hurling and especially the Senior Hurling Championship.

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Smith614

Thinkstoomuch1..., Charleville have a better u21 team than Newtown and it's a pity the way the North Cork board could not run their affairs and get the final played.

thinkstoomuch1

Look keep it real ,how in the name of sweet divine jesus can you say charville have a better team than.newtown,newtown hammered,not beat,HAMMEREd them 3-16 to ten in u21 ist round.

Yes charville have ten of the intermedaite panel,but this is a good newtown team,well coached.
I do agree charville were treated poorly,newtown got cancellation before,hear charville appealing it.

Im sorry now but what you said is rubbish proven by fact imo

zetecescort

pluszap wrote: »

Irish examiner made a mess of cork camogie all ireland winning poster today putting us down as having beaten dublin in final.

if you look on the Examiner website, you can fill in your details and they'll send out a corrected poster. nice to have two anyway, one camogie and one football besides trying to decide which way to hang it.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/competitions/free-cork-poster-397.html

ciarriaithuaidh

sean mac wrote: »

When the great tony leen announced this on Saturday, he stated that Flanagan was 'loathe' to get involved with cork having worked with cork previously, a strange way for any new member of a management team to be announced

Hmm..I'd take anything Leen says with a pinch of salt anyway. You're right, that was a very strange thing to say. I doubt very much Flanagan holds that view at all. He took over Tipp U-21 footballers this year and his stated goal was to defeat Kerry or Cork in the final. He had them in great nick in fairness, but Cork just shaded the final deservedly.
He's a Waterford man originally, only came to Tralee to work. The only club side he ever got involved with was Crokes and that was for 1 year only, so like I said I think Leen is talking through his ar5e..again. Possibly trying to discourage the move or whatever.
I don't know if it'll happen or not, but he certainly would bring something to the table and he's not a man for half-measures..everything is based on performing at speed. No skin off my nose, but I think he'd be a god aquisition.

sean mac

ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »

Hmm..I'd take anything Leen says with a pinch of salt anyway. You're right, that was a very strange thing to say. I doubt very much Flanagan holds that view at all. He took over Tipp U-21 footballers this year and his stated goal was to defeat Kerry or Cork in the final. He had them in great nick in fairness, but Cork just shaded the final deservedly.
He's a Waterford man originally, only came to Tralee to work. The only club side he ever got involved with was Crokes and that was for 1 year only, so like I said I think Leen is talking through his ar5e..again. Possibly trying to discourage the move or whatever.
I don't know if it'll happen or not, but he certainly would bring something to the table and he's not a man for half-measures..everything is based on performing at speed. No skin off my nose, but I think he'd be a god aquisition.

Im sure he is fine, but what made the comment more difficult to understand is that he worked with leen this year with douglas!!!! Either way s&c is an area where cork seem ok to me, its coaching, a brain on the line and some fella able to respect the playersthat is needed.Does Flanagan do any actual football coaching or is he just into the fitnesss side of things?

Smith614

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Look keep it real ,how in the name of sweet divine jesus can you say charville have a better team than.newtown,newtown hammered,not beat,HAMMEREd them 3-16 to ten in u21 ist round.

Yes charville have ten of the intermedaite panel,but this is a good newtown team,well coached.
I do agree charville were treated poorly,newtown got cancellation before,hear charville appealing it.

Im sorry now but what you said is rubbish proven by fact imo

Charleville have completely different team to the 1st round. If they win their appeal you will see. So a preliminary round result has u drooling all Shandrum. Newtown u21s on their junior team didn't want to know about it v dromina in jnr final.

zetecescort

Duhallow 2-17 Newtown 3-14.

thinkstoomuch1

Newtown up by ten,threw away a huge lead, it ended in a draw 3-14 to duhallows 2-17, in the last three minutes duhallow got a superb goal barry o connor a sub,and a late equalising point

Ian walsh got a goal,tim o mahony goal for newtown,great game,replay next tuesday mallow again.
Ill say more on the match later.

ciarriaithuaidh

sean mac wrote: »

Im sure he is fine, but what made the comment more difficult to understand is that he worked with leen this year with douglas!!!! Either way s&c is an area where cork seem ok to me, its coaching, a brain on the line and some fella able to respect the playersthat is needed.Does Flanagan do any actual football coaching or is he just into the fitnesss side of things?

Leen on the wind up by the sounds of it.

Flanagan is an outstanding s&c man and specialist in speed development, but he is more than just a trainer and has done some fine coaching work also. He was running football coaching workshops in Dublin going back 10 years which have got huge praise from a few people up there. Then again John Evans got similar praise and I don't have huge time for him as a coach..

Smith614

Thinkstoomuch.... How did duhallow line out? Any player to watch out for?

thinkstoomuch1

Duhallow
Darragh kearney
Paudue allen
Tj brosnan cork u 21 footballer
Richard o connor
Alan ryan
Gavin forde
Mike o gorman
Lorcan o neill
Kevin cremin
Donnacha kenneallt
Donal hannon
Jason o callaghan
Liam o keoffe
Ian walsh
Conor murphy
Subs
Shane mccaullife
Darren browne
Barry o connor
James fitzpatrick
Cathal casey
Niall field
Colm noonan
Shane walsh
Joseph carver
Conor o keoffe

Manager john hartnett they had six selectors,yes it is a division but imo a bit much

Newtown
Eric maloney
Billy naughton darragh browne eric o connor
Diarmuid buckley conor twomey mikey curtin
Brian morrisey paddy hassest
Jp maloney jamie c coughlan david geary
Jerry lane michael maguire tim o mahony
Subs paddy herihly,stephen o connor,sean griffin,kieran cagney,pj foley,donal sheehan,john firtzgibbon

Manager liam ryan also senior manager just three selectors

Duhallows ist game,cleary touch was off hadnt even trained as a team,without kilbrin lads,kanturk lads playing football and hurling v tired,down by ten can and will improve in the replay be much happier tonight as they will be better.
May not have kilbrin lads like crowley,sheehan as they play ballinshaig junior quater final in mallow sunday for kilbrin
Forde outstanding at centre back,o neill,Hannon,Ian walsh superb all game and cork minor darren browne a sub and barry o connor all impressed for them

Kearney was good but at fault for one goal,brosnan poor at times at full back

Newtowns,maloney made a superb save,eric o connor,Majestic conor twomey,coughlan and cork u 17 tim o mahony,i think playing harty with charville in mallow tommorrow v rochestown were all good for newtown.
Tim o mahony had a fine game,got a superb goal,while drominas diarmuid buckley had a good game.
Should be a great replay,the semi final saturday now v ballinshaig deferred imo extra time should have been played

deisedude

Anybody at the premier intermediate or intermediate hurling semi finals?

thinkstoomuch1

http://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/fitness-guru-flanagan-holds-key-to-kingdom-25889692.html

These give an insight in to flangan credentials.
No doubting hes good,ive seen him in action myself.Credit where its due
Far from a one trick pony or a bluffer or spoofer like some in the gaa game,and they are some real beauties in that department if were honest but pat is that good.
If hes there there is need for the antrim s and c coach as flangan can do both.
I would feel more happy if the antrim lad was gone nowwas ,flangan done s and c ,drills but we had kissane or oughlan etc in there also.

Don davis imo i wouldnt have,he was a great player.,Cuthbhert plays the media like a fiddle,one thing he does excellent no need for another similar selector in their.
We need some one else.
At moment the dynamic and balance of the set up is wrong.
Also a key part is how much control A coach has.Cuthbhert should have as little to do with it as possible imo ,he must be like cody,fitzmauruice,firzgerald in they trust and allow dempsey,o niell and kinnerk to do their thing.
If flanganan has any real input,dualism will be stamped out.
He coached hurling and football teams,knows what is required.
If he stamps out dualism imo ,i would begin to warm to him.
If not it means he has no real input at all,just a profile name.
Dualism will be the key indicator starting of with what flanganan will bring to the current cork senior football team

My only concern is the kerry link.
As for tony leen,he never had a gra for cork,he was awful as a manager in hes ist year with douglas,couldnt beat a poor poor skib team coached by peadar healy hardly a great coach imo either.Clyda tore skib apart despite no forwards of intercounty standard.If clyda had alan cadogan,or brian hurley or colm o niell or donnacha o connor they would be in a county final.John hayes imo wouldnt get a game with english,gouldings hot and cold at times would mean he wouldnt be an automatic starter for them imo at times.

Leen may talk the good talk,fair play, but in reality he has showed absoultey nothing in management this year despite lots of talent in douglas.
Has leen actually ever coached success in Kerry or anywhere??

keane2097

ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »

Leen on the wind up by the sounds of it.

Flanagan is an outstanding s&c man and specialist in speed development, but he is more than just a trainer and has done some fine coaching work also. He was running football coaching workshops in Dublin going back 10 years which have got huge praise from a few people up there. Then again John Evans got similar praise and I don't have huge time for him as a coach..

TBF I've spoken to some players outside Kerry who have great time for Evans (for what it's worth).

thinkstoomuch1

keane2097 wrote: »

TBF I've spoken to some players outside Kerry who have great time for Evans (for what it's worth).

Quick ?please
You would know
Has tony leen any coaching in kerry done

keane2097

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Quick ?please
You would know
Has tony leen any coaching in kerry done

I actually haven't a clue TTM, sorry.

ciarriaithuaidh

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Quick ?please
You would know
Has tony leen any coaching in kerry done

Nothing that I'm aware of TTM. He's from Ballymacelligott just outside Tralee, but hasn't lived there in a long time obviously. I have no idea how he got the Douglas gig to be honest!

Orizio

Youghal, Colmans, Bandon and AG Mhuire all after winning in the Harty today. Rochestown currently beating Charleville.

Boom__Boom

ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »

Nothing that I'm aware of TTM. He's from Ballymacelligott just outside Tralee, but hasn't lived there in a long time obviously. I have no idea how he got the Douglas gig to be honest!

Yeah - I've never heard of him being involved with anyone in Kerry either - was he involved with Douglas's underage setup or anything?

thinkstoomuch1

Old christians twenty to 1-13 dromcollogher munster b competition michaeål o halloran was immense for them in mallow in the ist game.Such grace,elgance,style,charisma,and skill.Awesome display.

Rochestown beat charville in the harty cup
Collins goalkeeper charville intermediates.and u 21 team was very good,
Paddy loughin centre back limerick minor,Micheal hounihan half back son of former limerick great I think,
Jack barry charville midfield
Griffin at half forward
and Tim o mahony who played for.newtown last night despite missing some frees had good games for charville at centre forward.
Fair play to tim,finish a game at 9,play a game at two the next day at just 17.

The one crucial mistake imo charville made was not once putting limerick minor full back Loughin on Kingston when he went in full forward or when he played half forward.Two goals really were the difference.Kingston is intercounty class,you got to mark him with intercounty class.
The lad on him tried hard but he isnt at kingstons level.
He got around 2 goals and five.
Imo poor poor call of any management not to make the swtich even in the second half,so so obivous stop him,you win the game.

For rochestown
Kevin donovan at half forward griffin John cashman and kingston two goals were immense for roceshtown.Cashman lorded it in the air.

http://gaacork.ie/news/340251/today's_harty_cup_post-primary_schools_fixtures
Superb day for the five cork schools,superb wins,i fancied hamilton but i thought colmans would struggle.
All five cork teams winning superb start for them,and christans win also in the munster b ,and charville and midelton winning in the dean ryan cup last week,made it a superb week for cork schools hurling,but a word of caution,very very early yet,just the ist day.
We will know much more in December but credit all,Today is a start,and christ Cork Hurling needed it.I heard chris o leary was meant to be unbelievable in Buttevant and luke meade just as good.Im delighted for Hammies,punching above their weight.Crowley is doing wonders with them.A small school with a massive heart and real characther.

Thanks to both kerry posters,information regards leen ,i appreciate it,the fact as not many doesnt know much about leen,tells it own story on leen,imo as if he was any way successful would be well known.
It truly amazes me how some get top top jobs when so many top young coaches in cork are overlooked with proven records.Unbelievable stuff imo.

Couldnt stay and watch it but there was a colledge one day freshers,tournament starting afterwards, cit had two teams,tralee,ul as it was pre warm up to the majior competitons.
I heard Keith ricken was with Cit ,top top coach.
Good benfit for all four teams getting a chance to trial players imo where no intercounty players played,it gave others a chance to impress.
Strong rumours Ger Cunningham going to Dublin.I must admit im shocked.
Cusack meant to be going with him.
After being shafted by cork and limerick for a senior job I hope it works out for him,if he does go,i will support dublin on hurling days outside of cork I hope they would win and all ireland.
Ul had trials only two weeks ago in their campus both hurling and football.Serious prepartion being done by most colledges.

From what I saw and heard today,nailed on cork minors next year,o halloran,cashnan,o leary,o mahony,kingston and meade,i think he is underage.

thinkstoomuch1

Dungarvan beat Clonmel in the harty cup today

This is relevant to here as simply.Clonmel are mideltons ist game up in two weeks.
On paper Mideltion should be winning but their the games they tend to loose in the past.Looking at the Clonmel team that lined out on paper,a team to be respected but certainley not feared.
John looney is going to be a huge huge player this year for Midelton imo ,big game player,even the in football monday night I heard he got a goal in the county premier two final.
Playing intermediate,for Aghda and starring,a sub on the cork minors last year,he has huge expierence of big games for a schools player.Ard scoil had a huge win,are going to be there abouts again,but cork teams avoid them in the Group stages.
They still have ronan lynch,ineligble for limerick at minor next year.For now ,up til january ,no.need for Cork teams to worry bout Ard Scoil Ris,who are a fantastic school ,for now but will imo have to beat them down the line.

Not only vital for mideltion to win but if they do,they do hamiltion.a huge favour as hamilton whe are not out for four weeks,who have a break in two weeks meet clonmel in their second game and id much prefer hammies to play a team that lost two than a team that lost one game but won one game. Time For Mideltion to deliver on their wonderful talent.Their time is now after last years Dean Ryan Cup Truimph.

Next round the 15th of October other games are
Youghal v caimhins
Charville in a must win v templemore .Charville ,certainly were not hurled today,are a good team,just tweak a few things.
Shortpassing is fine but you cant over do it either,they did today.
Paddy loughin may need to go to full back,its no point in being brillant at six,if full back is not strong.
Paddy is superb at 3 or 6 but imo needed at 3 more.This lad has limerick senior written,all over him in a few years.
Tim o mahony i feel is better at 14,a goal threat you always play closer to goal.
If the management learn from today ,they imo can still,qualify out of the group.

Ag mhuire v colmans,gurantees one cork team have maxium points bar a draw after two games as both won today in two weeks

Rochestown,great win for them today, have made huge improvements,last year was their very first year,in the Harty,got to a Harty cup semi final for their ist time ever,unlucky to loose a close game in dreadful weather in Charville to Doon.They were missing daniel meaney,who has a very serious injury,top hurler he is for blackrock and cork

Today was just brillant for Cork hurling in General, it will do all the players for cork,confidence wise,huge boost.Five harty wins,and christians starting it off with the very ist game today.
I said it all along,im expecting huge things with this years Cork minors.
Unlilke last year,with limerick in Munster being untouchable,all teams while tough opponets are very beatable next year in Munster
Cork made huge improvements.last year,and will continue to do so this year under Ring and Landers.
There will be a few of the current fermoy intermediate team on the Cork minor panel next year imo and with four 17 year olds on the charville team also in the county final,they will have a few in contention for Cork also imo.
The Munster draw is just weeks away for minor I think.
Training be starting very soon for the Cork minor hurlers.

celticcc1

Looking forward to Charleville-Fermoy Intermediate hurling final.
I hear they're bringing the final to Pairc Ui Rinn which is mad as it will diesentice a lot of North Cork neutrals from travelling.
The common sense venue would be Mallow, you could get 5000 and a guaranteed atmosphere

Fitzy23

Crowley isn't with Hammies at all.

thinkstoomuch1

Fitzy23 wrote: »

Crowley isn't with Hammies at all.

Noel crowley done a lot of work with them the last few years,reaping hes benfits.

BobBobBobBob

Duhallow should beat Newtown handy enough in the replay. That was the first time they togged together and some of them will have gotten over their hangovers

malascoile

crowley with colmans this year

Orizio

Anyone have any teams from yesterday?

thinkstoomuch1

malascoile wrote: »

crowley with colmans this year

He was with hammies is poiny.making
Made huge difference in.ist game with colmans

thinkstoomuch1

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/hurling/lynch-shows-way-as-holders-ardscoil-ris-off-to-a-flyer-289588.html

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/hurling/kingston-heroics-put-rochestown-in-the-clear-289587.html
Denis hurley.,always.great for harty cup coverage.

Declan dalton to get all bar four points of hes team scores ,some achicement along the lines of michael cahalane,ronsan lynch scoring sprees.
Hes nailed on to start for cork next year,as keeper,but on that form must come in to serious considerstion for out the field.cian collins is underage,top keeper,kenneally,o connell,so cork have no shortage of top quailty forwards.

As for duhallow,they will come on leaps and bounds,but very naive to rule out newtown,,as.a feable challange when newtown stopped playing in the last ten minutes
it will suit newtown,duhallow think they just turn up.

I should have put teams up after yesterdays game i thought i had
Aplogoies orizo.

RebelRay

Declan dalton to get all bar four points of hes team scores ,some achicement along the lines of michael cahalane,ronsan lynch scoring sprees.
Hes nailed on to start for cork next year,as keeper,but on that form must come in to serious considerstion for out the field.cian collins is underage,top keeper,kenneally,o connell,so cork have no shortage of top quailty forwards.

As for duhallow,they will come on leaps and bounds,but very naive to rule out newtown,,as.a feable challange when newtown stopped playing in the last ten minutes
it will suit newtown,duhallow think they just turn up.

I should have put teams up after yesterdays game i thought i had
Aplogoies orizo.[/QUOTE]

what schools are the above players involved with? i know dalton is youghal. Hard to believe ronan lynch is harty again this year