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Guy kicked out of college for having sex with a woman!!!

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Among the key pieces of evidence that John and his legal team are relying on are two text messages that Jane had sent before going to John's room, one to him asking if he had a condom and another to a friend from her hometown saying "I'mgoingtohave sex now" (sic).

"The thing is I have no clue what I was thinking," Jane later told investigators. "I would never have done that if I had been sober … I don't know what was going through my head."

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/occidental-sexual-assault-2014-9#ixzz3EMKV1J30

Two drunk people have consensual sex. The man is blamed for this and gets kicked out of college while the woman is treated like a victim.

I think this trivialises rape and damages actual victims of sexual assault.

Is this what extreme 'liberalism' and a certain type of feminism has brought to the world?

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Shakespeare's Sister

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Is this what extreme 'liberalism' and a certain type of feminism has brought to the world?

I don't know that the idea of the woman as always the victim is due to liberalism/feminism. Could be wrong though. I know some feminism certainly perpetuates it, but not sure that it created it. If anything, it's a conservative/traditional notion.

TheZohan wrote: »

A drunk person cannot give consent.

Surely there's a scale? Drunk can mean giggly and slurry and goofy all the way to passed out and crumped in a heap. The latter is obviously the state of a person who cannot give consent, but I don't know about the first one.

karl99

That's just ridiculous, a real case of blame the man for the mistake of both parties !

K4t

TheZohan wrote: »

A drunk person cannot give consent. Legally; a woman can not rape a man.

Yeah but it's not a legal issue till one or more persons choose to make it one. A drunk person can give consent to have sex.

DaveDaRave

I find it offensive that this stuff even makes it to trial.

jamo2oo9

All I see is a woman who had sex with a guy and the morning after, she was ultimately embarrassed so she decided to call it sexual assault to alleviate her embarrassment....

shruikan2553

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

So if I have a few bottles of wine with my girlfriend and we mess around she cannot consent to anything we then do?

I'm at the mercy of her 'goodwill' that I won't be publicly accused of being a rapist!

Is that the logic here?

Pretty much. Its not the first time a girl gets drunk and regrets having sex or doesn't remember it so claims she was raped.

WhatNowForUs?

TheZohan wrote: »

A drunk person cannot give consent. Legally; a woman can not rape a man.

They can with an object.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

TheZohan wrote: »

A drunk person cannot give consent. Legally; a woman can not rape a man.

So if I have a few bottles of wine with my girlfriend and we mess around she cannot consent to anything we then do?

I'm at the mercy of her 'goodwill' that I won't be publicly accused of being a rapist!

Is that the logic here?

looking_around

TheZohan wrote: »

A drunk person cannot give consent. Legally; a woman can not rape a man.

That's what needs to change.

He was drunk too, surely this is "unconsented" consentual sex.

People need to just cop on, they chose to drink, if they wanted to be in control of their choices, they need to drink less.

both are at fault, here.
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@OP, I also agree, this trivialises rape.
This was not rape. It was 2 drunk people, doing something they now regret. This is stupidity and both knew they were likely to do something stupid, by getting p!ssed.

omahaid

TheZohan wrote: »

A drunk person cannot give consent. Legally; a woman can not rape a man.

Does that mean a drunk woman shouldn't be allowed have sex for her own protection?

Fr_Dougal

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Two drunk people have consensual sex. The man is blamed for this and gets kicked out of college while the woman is treated like a victim.

I think this trivialises rape and damages actual victims of sexual assault.

Is this what extreme 'liberalism' and a certain type of feminism has brought to the world?

A drunk person cannot give consent. Legally; a woman can not rape a man.

Mr. Incognito

They got drunk. She texted him to ask if he had a condom then called to his and accused him of sexual assault after because she couldnt remember?

If you replace it with cake.

Hey, do you have cake? Texts her friend, i am going to johns to have cake. Goes to Johns to have cake and the next day blames John for her having cake.

This woman needs to learn some personal responsibility.

I think that this guy doesnt deserve this permanent stigma

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Mocha Joe wrote: »

Your username is longer than the thread title. This trivialises usernames and actual people with normal length usernames.

Mocha (moth), a European moth of the Geometridae family; its scientific name is Cyclophora annularia.

Joe (magazine), periodical developed originally for Kenyan youth.

To be fair I would never trivialise your username.

Mocha Joe

Your username is longer than the thread title. This trivialises usernames and actual people with normal length usernames.