jamesbere wrote: » Is the leak on your property?
keno-daytrader wrote: » Well I dont know, thats one of the issues I raised, I turn off the mains in my house and the meter is still spinning like mad :eek:
keno-daytrader wrote: » Good ole Phil, he promised us free leak fixes for a year after Irish water start billing, well thats out the window already. "To help households control consumption, the Government will fund a scheme providing a free first fix of leaks" He wrote this just 3 short months ago.http://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/local-news/reforming-ireland-s-water-minister-phil-hogan-writes-for-the-leinster-express-1-6131677 I have a leak of 1000's of liters a day and this is the response I got from Irish water. (Im a tenant but responsible for what goes thru the meter) "Thank you for your email regarding a potential leak. The owner/occupier is responsible for the maintenance for any water pipe work up to 225mm from the boundary of their property. Irish Water are responsible for the maintenance for any water pipe work beyond this point. If the leak is on your private property, it would be your responsibility to get it fixed." Wow now they will cover a full 8 inches from the property! Thanks Phil, enjoy that great EU job and 2 fat pensions you will get, your the best!
Transparency is showing you why you're paying the amount that you are. If ESB (or whoever), decided to charge you a flat €300 a month regardless of how much power you used, you'd be at a loss to explain why they're charging you that, and why you're still paying €300 even though you went on holidays for two weeks.
Mrs Garth Brooks wrote: » Next year's budget, they'll scrap the free water allowance.
jobyrne30 wrote: » No the year AFTER the election.....
stevedublin wrote: » No, they'll scrap the water charge altogether then (FF/SF will be in power). Also, anyone who refused to pay will not be chased, making the compliant sheep who did look foolish.
Rips wrote: » Its semantics, Seamus you say you'd protest a flat water charge or tax, yet that's what I'll be paying.
seamus wrote: » That's consistency, not transparency. Transparency is showing you why you're paying the amount that you are.
seamus wrote: » The cost of water is dependent on where the company spends its money. If you don't know that, then you cannot say whether the charge is reasonable or not.
seamus wrote: » They will be required to file an annual return every year which will provide this financial information. There cannot be a "black hole" where "the rest goes" because everything will have to be detailed in their returns.
animaal wrote: » I disagree. Transparency means obvious, or easily understood. A regular flat charge is both. With what we're getting (household allowances, allowances for children, unmetered households), it's out in the open, but not nearly as obvious or easily understood.
No, the price is calculated to be as high as can/will be accepted by the public. If water was twice as expensive to produce, I don't think our bills would be double what they are now. Likewise, if we conserve water and cut our usage by half, the bills won't be left at half their current amount.
geeksauce wrote: » If the meter is turning after you have turned the water off in your house chances are the leak is somewhere between the meter and your house. As this is on your property it would be your responsibility to get it fixed. There are a couple of ways you can check for leaks, locate the pipe and block it off at different intervals thereby isolating the area where the leak is occurring, dig it up and fix it. It would be no different than having a leaking tap in your house, you wouldn't expect Irish Water to fix this tap for you for free and then give you an allowance for the water that has leaked through your broken tap?
keno-daytrader wrote: » Have you been out of the country for the last year? Phil and the govt promised that any leaks would be fixed by IW for the first year. I am a renter, my landlords will have nothing to do with Irish water and there is 0zero chance of them digging up the place to repair a leak, So where does that leave the renter as Im responsible for the bill? The whole Irish water thing is a farce in so many ways. 50 mil on outside consultants and they havent addressed any of these problems that are arising but we start paying from next week.
suicide_circus wrote: » I am renting. I have had precisely zero communication from Irish Water or from the landlord about Irish Water.
geeksauce wrote: » I don't think I ever heard them say they will be fixed by Irish Water, I did read somewhere that Irish Water would make people aware of leaks on their premises when the meter is installed. I would then assume after this people have to fix their own leaks and can make an application to Irish Water for an allowance based on the fact that they had a leak and had to fix it, couldn't imagine Irish Water wanting to go down the route of fixing leaks in 1000's of private properties across the country.
keno-daytrader wrote: » Have you been out of the country for the last year? Phil and the govt promised that any leaks would be fixed by IW for the first year. I am a renter, my landlords will have nothing to do with Irish water and there is 0zero chance of them digging up the place to repair a leak, So where does that leave the renter as Im responsible for the bill? The whole Irish water thing is a farce in so many ways. 50 mil on outside consultants and they havent addressed any of these problems that are arising but we start paying from next week. Once again, thanks Phil
kneemos wrote: » It's your landlords responsibility to maintain,get medieval on hid ass.
keno-daytrader wrote: » The whole Irish water thing is a farce in so many ways. 50 mil on outside consultants Once again, thanks Phil
keno-daytrader wrote: » There was supposed to be 50mil+ set aside for this very thing.
jobyrne30 wrote: » What bugs me about the whole water charging and PPS stuff is (3) Why the hell do the need my PPS details, seriously why ? Why can't I get tax credits from revenue to the value of the so called free allowances.
keno-daytrader wrote: » Big Phil's last lie
