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is it ever ok to punch a bully in the f**kin face?

Roger Hassenforder

the young fella is now in senior infants. And with every school, there's a little bollicks in the yard that picks on the smaller lads, mine included sometimes. its not an issue, he doesn't seem too worried about it (yet?!), but the wife and I differ on dealing with it.

I'm old school, and have said to him, its ok to defend himself, but not to throw the first slap, to warn the bully if he pushes/kicks him again that he'll retaliate in kind. then if the scrote picks on him again, mill the little f**ker. He might take a few extra slaps, but he'll be too much hassle for the bully the next time, he'll pick on some one else.

Needless to say the wife has a different view, and thinks im encouraging him to be a thug. I say the little chap has to learn to stand up for himself, ive to teach him how to do it.

Is there too much namby pambying these days? Are we running to the teachers every time our kids gets pushed over demanding interventions bla bla etc., hearing the usual platitudes "violence doesn't solve anything", "its a cry for help" from the little scrote", that polices are in place do deal with it...
do we need to teach our kids assertiveness and not to take ****e from bullies?

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helimachoptor

When I was in primary school someone, I didn't know who long story short felt my bag move, jumped under my desk, got out from under my desk got bagged on head, picked up chair smashed him in the face with it, happy to give your kid lessons op

Annasopra

myshirt wrote: »

I'm very surprised with all the pass the buck answers.

Guys, that doesn't resolve it. The core issue is the kid's own ability to deal with life. The kid can't be mammied through it all. Where the hell did you people grow up?

And teaching kids that violence is the answer to life achieves what exactly?

beanie10

Joeytheparrot wrote:

No

ssh Dont tell them that!

Annasopra

beanie10 wrote: »

aren't they always!

beanie10

Joeytheparrot wrote:

Your Wife is absolutely 100% right

aren't they always!

myshirt

I'm very surprised with all the pass the buck answers.

Guys, that doesn't resolve it. The core issue is the kid's own ability to deal with life. The kid can't be mammied through it all. Where the hell did you people grow up?

Annasopra

Rubberchikken wrote: »

it's all well and good to teach a kid to walk away, tell teacher, blah blah.
but when teachers are not even dealing with these types of children in schools, kids have to look after themselves.
i always told mine, after they took the bully crap, spoke to teachers etc, to never start anything but if needed, finish it. people have to be able to look after themselves and it seems necessary for it to start in infant classes.

good luck to your lad.

Teachers are obliged to deal with it nowadays. Schools have completely changed!!!!!

myshirt

What you do is have a word with his father in front of both your child, and his, to lead by example.

Put it to him and his son sternly that it's not to continue (obviously a bit softer with the kid). If it happens again, you'll have to call over to the father only for an explanation. And tell the father that.

Separately, get the kid involved in boxing, rugby or some sport - the focus is to grow his confidence to be able to deal with life, to relationship build, and maintain that level of self esteem he needs. There's always going to be a level of bullying going on at all stages of life unfortunately. The world is run on power and control.

Rubberchikken

it's all well and good to teach a kid to walk away, tell teacher, blah blah.
but when teachers are not even dealing with these types of children in schools, kids have to look after themselves.
i always told mine, after they took the bully crap, spoke to teachers etc, to never start anything but if needed, finish it. people have to be able to look after themselves and it seems necessary for it to start in infant classes.

good luck to your lad.

pickarooney

Of course he should retaliate. The sooner he learns to deal with his own problems, the better.

kylith

Bring it to the attention of the teacher, but co-incidentally teach your son to box or a martial art.

Molester Stallone II

Of course you should speak to the teacher, it must be brought to their attention & let them deal with it, believe me, they have a lot more experience dealing with little Mussolinis than you have.

Annasopra

Your Wife is absolutely 100% right

Soft Falling Rain

Don't see the problem, if the bully is old enough to dish it out then your son is old enough to retaliate in kind.

jippo nolan

Remember what Jesus said "do unto others as they do unto you, but get the boot in first"

voz es

Man get the lad into boxing traning, the fact alone that he is boxing will get most bullys off his back, a typical bully is a coward.

beanie10

yes op go with this one. find the little bollixes father and everytime the kid bullies yours just plant his father one between the 2 eyes.

Turtyturd

Parents of these kids are normally as bad so it might be better for you to punch them in the face.

Tombi!

Given they're so young and it's happening to others too, either talk to the parents or the teacher and see if that can be resolved first.

PizzamanIRL

I'll bate that little bastard for ya! Show me where me lives. Show me!

deco nate

Just to be clear, are we talking about Russia v the Ukraine,?
If so tell the little lad to keep on standing up for himself.

Never give in to a bully!!

kowloon

This kid fought back and was praised for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2RqghfXR_o

0byme75341jo28

wazky wrote: »

A good shanking solves all, remember to twist.

Don't let your child go all ISIS though, that wouldn't be cool.

Speak for yourself....

wazky

A good shanking solves all, remember to twist.

Don't let your child go all ISIS though, that wouldn't be cool.

BrokenArrows

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

the young fella is now in senior infants. And with every school, there's a little bollicks in the yard that picks on the smaller lads, mine included sometimes. its not an issue, he doesn't seem too worried about it (yet?!), but the wife and I differ on dealing with it.

I'm old school, and have said to him, its ok to defend himself, but not to throw the first slap, to warn the bully if he pushes/kicks him again that he'll retaliate in kind. then if the scrote picks on him again, mill the little f**ker. He might take a few extra slaps, but he'll be too much hassle for the bully the next time, he'll pick on some one else.

Needless to say the wife has a different view, and thinks im encouraging him to be a thug. I say the little chap has to learn to stand up for himself, ive to teach him how to do it.

Is there too much namby pambying these days? Are we running to the teachers every time our kids gets pushed over demanding interventions bla bla etc., hearing the usual platitudes "violence doesn't solve anything", "its a cry for help" from the little scrote", that polices are in place do deal with it...
do we need to teach our kids assertiveness and not to take ****e from bullies?

I would first go down the route with the teachers and it it happens a single more time then give your kid permission to throw a few punches.

Problem is that if your kid cant fight and loses badly then it will just make things a lot worse as he has just reenforced the bully's power.

Timmyctc

wazky wrote: »

Give the little lad a shank, nobody will fcuk with him when he sticks some other little fcuker.

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/ain+t+no+one+****s+with+tiny+hippo_7541d9_3298343.jpg

0byme75341jo28

TheBegotten wrote: »

Just to clarify, we're talking about five year olds here? Talk to the teacher about it, at that age a stern word will set him right. I'd say something if it was a ten year old.

You've obviously never met a proper little shit. :P

Violence is the answer, friends. Violence is the answer.

diomed

Tell him to spit on each hand, then take a penalty kick.

krustydoyle

Feck it, tell the chap to stick him and I betcha there won't be much more after it

TheBegotten

Just to clarify, we're talking about five year olds here? Talk to the teacher about it, at that age a stern word will set him right. I'd say something if it was a ten year old.