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Christmas bonus may be back

Kermit.de.frog

Should people be on the dole be getting a "bonus" for another year of unemployment at Christmas?

The red side of the government wants to bring it back.

What yeh reckon?

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wretcheddomain

As far as I'm aware, it's also for carers and those who are disabled.

Excellent broadbrushing there though OP, AH standard right there.

xzanti

*Opens popcorn*

Tipsy McSwagger

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Should people be on the dole be getting a "bonus" for another year of unemployment at Christmas?

The red side of the government wants to bring it back.

What yeh reckon?

I reckon you hate people on the dole judging by your previous posts.

Sunnyisland

I going back to the Scottish vote thread, it's safer :-)

Czarcasm

xzanti wrote: »

*Opens popcorn*

Never gets old, *grabs a handful*...

Don't mind if I do

yabadabado

No they shouldn't be bringing it back,such a payment should never have been paid.Trying to buy votes .

henryporter

Get paid even more for not doing a rap :mad: - why don't the lefties ask all the self employed people if they would like a bonus too instead of skinning them alive to waste money on wasters - and before I get the 'genuinely unemployed' backlash etc. this rant is directed at the career unemployed.

biko

Cheese for everyone!

The Backwards Man

Yep, bring it back, it's a much missed mid December cash injection for service industries.

rubadub

Are there any other religious holidays where they considered giving people bonuses like this?

People tend to drink & spend a lot on St.Patricks day, or spend a lot on easter eggs at easter.

I know there used to be confirmation & communion grants.

Birneybau

xzanti wrote: »

*Opens popcorn*

*can't afford popcorn, cries*

Kermit.de.frog

henryporter wrote: »

Get paid even more for not doing a rap :mad: - why don't the lefties ask all the self employed people if they would like a bonus too instead of skinning them alive to waste money on wasters - and before I get the 'genuinely unemployed' backlash etc. this rant is directed at the career unemployed.

Exactly. Why should some feckless layabout be getting a "bonus" every Christmas after, say, 6 years of unemployment?

The fact it is called a "bonus" tells you something too. A bonus is usually a reward.

anncoates

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Should people be on the dole be getting a "bonus" for another year of unemployment at Christmas?

The red side of the government wants to bring it back.

What yeh reckon?

Do you find it tiring being so angry about these things all the time ?

Steppenwolfe

I don't begrudge SW recipients a little extra at xmas. It must be a very tough time of year for them. The relief it brings to people far outweighs the extra cost to the exchequer imo.

Tipsy McSwagger

I hope they bring it back just to piss off all the begrudgers on here who never had to struggle for anything in their lives.

Timberrrrrrrr

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Exactly. Why should some feckless layabout be getting a "bonus" every Christmas after, say, 6 years of unemployment?

The fact it is called a "bonus" tells you something too. A bonus is usually a reward.

I know a lad who has been unemployed for nearly 7 years, He is 52 and used to work a steel press machine in a factory. He has applied for THOUSANDS of jobs and got nothing. Heads up....not everyone on long term unemployment is a useless layabout as you and your ilk seem to think :mad:

Barely There

Hopefully any additional monies available in the budget will be used on tax-breaks for workers, as opposed to increasing our already ludicrously high SW rates.

B.A._Baracus

here lies the problem with this being posted ... :pac:

- naturally anyone on the social welfare will want to recieve it.
- sadly there are alot of begrudgers in this world. so alot of unemployed people will be against it. So grab the popcorn indeed :pac:

*munch*
*munch*
where's the guy who goes "my taxes this, my taxes that, rabble rabble" :pac:
*munch*

wilser

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Exactly. Why should some feckless layabout be getting a "bonus" every Christmas after, say, 6 years of unemployment?

The fact it is called a "bonus" tells you something too. A bonus is usually a reward.

Well tbf according to AH everyone on the dole spends all their days in the pub/bookies, smokes all day every day, goes to Florida for at least 2 weeks in the summer and has a brand new 14D reg car.
So taking all that into account then of course they should get a bonus as a reward.
They should be running the finances of the country never mind an extra €188 once a year

Sunnyisland

rubadub wrote: »

Are there any other religious holidays where they considered giving people bonuses like this?

People tend to drink & spend a lot on St.Patricks day, or spend a lot on easter eggs at easter.

I know there used to be confirmation & communion grants.

There thinking of paying it to our Muslem brothers who are also unfortunate to be unemployed during Ramadan ...it only goes on for a month.

Faolchu

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I know a lad who has been unemployed for nearly 7 years, He is 52 and used to work a steel press machine in a factory. He has applied for THOUSANDS of jobs and got nothing. Heads up....not everyone on long term unemployment is a useless layabout as you and your ilk seem to think :mad:

in 7 years he could have retrained at something else through incentives like springboard.

Timberrrrrrrr

Faolchu wrote: »

in 7 years he could have retrained at something else through incentives like springboard.

Yup he did he did 2 years comptia A+ and Network+ and then worked for a 9 months doing jobbridge and still can't get taken on. simple fact is men over a certain age find it harder to get employed.

Barely There

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I know a lad who has been unemployed for nearly 7 years, He is 52 and used to work a steel press machine in a factory. He has applied for THOUSANDS of jobs and got nothing. Heads up....not everyone on long term unemployment is a useless layabout as you and your ilk seem to think :mad:

Thousands eh?

Let's be generous and say two thousand.

So every working day for nearly 7 years he applied for an average of 6 jobs per day?
And didn't get 1?

He did in my bollix.

Uriel.

Personally, I would not approve of it coming back for all SW recipients. I would have a certain level of sympathy for carers, as their work generally relieves the state of certain commitments and expenditure.

Furthermore the idea of a 'bonus' would fit much better with the work being done by carers. I can't see the fit with regard to those not working to be honest.

It is very difficult to get rid of these kind of payments and provisions and I hope the Government thinks very carefully about the implications of reinstating these.

wretcheddomain

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Exactly. Why should some feckless layabout be getting a "bonus" every Christmas after, say, 6 years of unemployment?

The fact it is called a "bonus" tells you something too. A bonus is usually a reward.

So, the fact there's a small minority of scroungers determines your decision to begrudge the following groups for a little extra at Christmas:

Graduates
Those laid off unfairly who make honest attempts at finding work
Disabled people
Carers

Furthermore, the implementation costs around €260 million, a great deal of which will return to the tax pot as people spend money in the season that's in it.

Forget analysing the name of the money, whether it's called "Christmas bonus" is neither here nor there, what's important is how you understand the implications of the small quantity of money, and any proper analysis would come to the conclusion I and many others have in the course of this thread.

Moreover, you sound jealous.

Annasopra

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Should people be on the dole be getting a "bonus" for another year of unemployment at Christmas?

Yes

RayM

I think the dole should be reduced from €188 to a nice, round €185 per week, with the Christmas bonus reinstated. The €3 per week wouldn't really be missed by many, but the Christmas bonus would be positive, not only for those unfortunate enough to be unemployed, but also for the retail business at Christmas.

c_man

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

The red side of the government wants to bring it back.

They want to buy votes you mean.

ireland.man

As a college student availing of heavily subsidised education in Ireland/ a farmer's son who's family receives 'free money' through CAP and State help/ a worker in a company receiving State support to remain competitive in the global market/ etc/ I'm shocked and appalled that other people are receiving more visible help than the help I'm receiving from the State.

shruikan2553

Why would they need a bonus? Can't they just do what everyone else does and live within their means?