willietherock wrote: » You are bang on about the continued under representation form strong city clubs in the development squads, What appears to be happening is that the U14 development squads are picked on the inter divisional competition and Imokilly are way more organised and win it with ease most yrs and city sides are a total mess. Most yrs the city club teams are more often than not at the business end of the championships with tiny representation on the development squads. Add in big amount of Imokilly involvement in the management of the development squads and the thing is a bit of a mess.
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: » The dean ryan cup starts wedneday three weeks the 24th of september. Rochestown v youghal Charville v clonmel Midelton the holders v nenagh If charville win they make it a cork quater final as they play rochestown or youghal so we could be guaranteed a all quater final If midelton beat nenagh,they play flannans or de la salle in a quater final and would possibly meet youghal or rochestown or charville in a semi final should they get through Four cork teams on one side of the draw make it likely of getting a team to the final but it be better if we had other team on the other side Colmans are there but the bye wont do them any favours as they will be coming in cold against probaly ard scoil,with a game under their belt ,and its a huge ask. Five cork teams , four fron tippereary ,two each from clare and waterford and limerck. Draw Ist round 24th of september A Rice v blackwater B Templemore v kilmallock C Ard scoil v thurles D Rochestown v youghal E Charville v clonmel F Midelton v nenagh G st flannans v dls waterford Quater final 8th october 1 A v b 2 C v st colmans fermoy got a buy 3 d v e 4 F v g Semi final 22nd october 1 v 2 3 v 4 Final 8th of november For a successful Dean ryan cup,all cork teams must be competive,i wouldnt be too harsh on colmans as its a tough draw,with no ist round game,we should have be wanting an all cork semi,and a team in the final for the second year in a row at least for constant upward dean ryan progression imo. Harty cup starts October ist Its Hughely Imperative all cork teams be competive and we get at least a finalist,badly need a winner. Time for charville,midelton,rochestown to step up and use their expierence from last year . Hamilton,not as huge a pick like the other cork teams but with horgan,cahalane among others gone, huge losses,but luke meade and chris o leary are i think eligble,two huge huge players for them,two real leaders.Id expect them to be very competive. GROUP ONE: Ardscoil Ris, Blackwater CS, St Flannans, Thurles CBS, West Limerick Colleges. GROUP TWO: Scoil na Trionoide Naofa Doon, St Colmans Fermoy, Gaelcolaiste Mhuire AG, De La Salle, Castletroy College. GROUP THREE: Rochestown, Charleville CBS, Our Ladys Templemore, youghal, St Caimins Shannon. GROUP FOUR: Hamilton High School Bandon, Nenagh CBS, Dungarvan CBS, High School Clonmel, Midleton CBS. Round 1 1/10/14 Ard ScoilRis v Blackwater C.S StFlannan’s vThurles CBS Scoil na Trionóid Doon v St Colman’s Gael Coláiste Mhuire AG vDe La Salle St Franciochestown v Charleville Our Lady’s Templemore v Youghal Hamilton High Bandon v nenagh Dungarvan CBS v High School Clonmel Round 2 15/10/14 Blackwater CS v St. Flannan’s Thurles CBS v West Limerick Colleges St Colman’s v Gael Coláiste Mhuire AG De La Salle v Castletroy CC Charleville CBS v Templemore Youghal v St Caimin’s Shannon Nenagh CBS vDungarvan CBS High School Clonmel v Midleton Round 3 5/11/14 Ardscoil Ris vThurles CBS St Flannan’s v West Limerick Doon v De La Salle Coláiste MhuireAG v Castletroy St Francis - Rochestown v Youghal Templemore v St Caimin’s Hamilton High Bandon v Clonmel Dungarvan CBS v Midleton CBS Round 4 19/11/14 Ardscoil Ris v West Limerick Blackwater CS v Thurles CBS Doon v Castletroy CC St Colman’s Fermoy v De La Salle Rochestown v St Caimhins Charleville CBS v Youghal Hamilton High Bandon v Midleton Nenagh CBS v.High School Clonmel Round 5 03/12/14 Ardscoil Ris v St Flannan’s Blackwater CS v.West Limerick Doon v Gael Coláiste Mhuire AG St Colman’s Fermoy v Castletroy CC Rochestown vTemplemore Charleville CBS v St Caimin’s Hamilton Bandon v Dungarvan Nenagh CBS v Midleton CBS Quarter Finals 14/01/2015 Semi Finals 31/1/2015 Final 21/2/2015 All-Ireland Quarter Finals 15/3/2015 All-Ireland Semi Finals 22/3/2015 All-Ireland Final 5/4/2015 We should get a cork group winner from group 3,possibly a runner up,midelton should come out of group four,with Hamilton a fighting chance,in group two its hard to see a cork team make it,as a winner as its a tough group but ag mhuire may have run second close. Colmans ,unfortunately imo are not the force of old,sad to see,denis ring is now.working hes magic with Blackwater cbs. West limerick almagate next year,dromcollger,newcastlewest and rathkeale,great idea,as if limerick hurling at schools wasnt strong enough the board show tremendous innovation,courage,not to rest on their laurels,but continually strive for perfection in one weak aera of limerick,if it happened last year diarmuid buckley hazlewood be playing harty cup hurling,where hes skillset deserves. Cork could learn from limerick.West limerick has some good hurling talent,current minor seamus flangan is from their playing with diarmuid buckley last year at hazlewood colledge. Cork u 17s win is being played down just naively over a false misconception imo,the minors failed since 2008,that had nothing to do with talent,more so a complete balls up of the inital development squad launch,and then poor manager,wouldnt imo win a title if he had the clare u 21s. Cork beat dublin,to be fair dublin were not great ,but they beat limerick who had a lot of full strength squad,and hammered a poor poor clare. Its vital like u 15,cork beating limerick as they have been our bogey team at schools,and underage since 2008. Cork had seven key lads out of the panel in Mallow,limerick had noel hartigan coaching them,doing great work,that was a good limerick side,and a lot will be with around seven of the current panel from sundays final be their team next year. Limerick will be strong,but id fancy cork next year. When the draw is done in around six weeks,i want cork to get clare,it would be in ennis,tipp ,or waterford away,as its a test,loose and your still in the competiton,but should you meet them again,cork have home adavantage. Limerick i would respect but not fear them,would be a nightmare in a ist round,as we could win in cork but we would then if we met them again in a semi final have to play them in the gaelic grounds as we play them in cork if we draw them in a ist game scenario. Limerick unlike last year in a semi final is fine ,once we havent played them already,as we crucially have home advanatage,our better again would be to avoid them up to a possible munster final as unlike a semi final you have the comfort of a back door. Cork lads need to be getting to croke park at the very least in Minor Hurling.
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: » I hope your right. One would be a start,a huge improvement. Ard scoil will always be their abouts,and have gillane,fitzgerald,casey from limerick minors,dean ryan cup team last year was very good just lost by a point,have proven coaches,so they wont be far away.
havent got a kalou wrote: » Well in think Niall McCarthy is now in with Ronan Dwane as trainers
sean mac wrote: » Has had a lot of teams and keeps getting coaching gigs, yet to see a team with him in charge actually win anything - carrigtwohill, cork minors, cork u16s. Maybe the fella is good and he is certainly liked down the pairc but has he had success somewhere else?
havent got a kalou wrote: » For me in the Harty Midleton will win it the 2 years in a row hands down
Horse84 wrote: » Cork GAA chief insists Rebel hurling in good health in face of criticism at heated meetinghttp://jrnl.ie/1651515
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: » Imo corks only hope is if the GAA get involved
Smith614 wrote: » Charleville V Newtown u21 final at weekend should be good game. A lot of talent on Both teams.
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: » Birds of a feather flock together. Im sure cusack looses no sleep over it. Another stone age view man regarding hurling imo. He knows well about mediocrity and shamboluic management to agree cork isnt in crisis,sure he had a woeful woeful term as senior kilkenny manager had no concepts around tactics. Some man to travel all around the world and fair play liked business class .Hes reply was over safery risks of the danger on long all flights,yet many thousands fly every day but just take precautions. andy comeford in particular ive huge time for in hes support of cork in the strikes,said he be ashamed if kilkenny were treated the same.A man of principle i admire greatly. Shefflin i have great time for as a player but spoke in support of cork last year,sure thats easy to do.He did not say too much in support when it was on . As for others the less said the better.
havent got a kalou wrote: » That will be a cracker I was talking to a lad from Newtown and he said they will be missing Jamie c coughlan
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: » Its called unity.,a self respect among other players to help them in their strike as some day ye could be in the boat,frank murphy is actually a kilkenny man,not a cork man. Fergal hartley supported cork in.the strikes. Like a workers strike non employess of that complany wont cross the picket line. A lot of people have principle,know right from wrong,stand up for their beliefs. You would tend listen if brennan was actually good,but he was actually woeful as manager,lets be honest,and not sugar coat it. Wexford beat them,yes he beat dublin in 97 but wexford again beat them,he struggled past a poor galway,clare beat them. Kilkenny couldnt get wait to get rid of him then.
