Banjo String wrote: » Ok. So it's my meter. How would Irish Water prosecute me for touching/damaging/tampering with, My own meter If you finally concede that it's Irish Waters meter, why should I keep an eye on it on their behalf?
geeksauce wrote: » To avoid being prosecuted or fined or both for tampering with the meter.
Banjo String wrote: » But you said it's mine What else do I own that they could prosecute me for if I tamper with it?
fxotoole wrote: » Wrong. It's not a private organisation. It's a semi state body. Once again, it's not a private company.
JONJO THE MISER wrote: » I love there add that a letter will be sent out to every house in the country, it is incorrect, if i get a letter straight in the fire as i have my own well for water, it says a lot about the company when they cant even get a simple thing like this right.
bloopy wrote: » Over the last 3 years i have been getting increasingly sick and tired of being threatened every time the ****ers at the top want to push something through. Threatening us with Revenue or the IMF or whatever they can use to bully us into submission. If they are giving the allowance for every home anyway, then the PPS number should not come into it. I don't like this and find it very intimidating. Also, why do people with private wells have to give this information - do they have plans for these in the future also.
Ogham wrote: » As I mentioned earlier - they are proposing to charge €424 a year for non repsonders without meters. The unmetered charge if you are single and reply with a PPS no. will be €176 a year. http://www.moneyguideireland.com/unmetered-water-charges-how-will-it-work.html
delw wrote: » "If householders do not respond to these Irish Water letters – it is proposed to charge unmetered homes the full amount (water and waste water) for two adults without the free allowance – i.e. an annual charge of €424." (from link above ) What if there are more than two adults & children in the unmetered homes.Does that mean you won't be charged more than €424 per year no matter how much water you use?
Oscar Gateaux wrote: » It's a disgrace. Is this what James Connolly and Patrick Pearse died for?
cerastes wrote: » No charge if you dont apply, nor do you need to provide them with your PPSN, yet if you dont, you get penalised?? So you arent obligated to give it to them, but if you dont, you suffer a penalty? for what??? the whole "free" allowance reeks. I want to know why they want or need thee PPSN? This idea its to administer the "free" allowance is a con, the allowance is a means to hold something over you to intimidate people into giving over these details voluntarily. Is there some consumer or EU regulation against this?? penalising a person for witholding private personal information from a private company which they cant reasonably require.
Where I have declared I am a customer of Irish Water, I am confirming I have the authority to open an account at the premises and that I am liable for water charges at the premises.
Yawns wrote: » I'm renting, I don't have the authority and can't get in touch with my LL. It's not covered under my lease. If IW don't have my name, will this not just end up like the whole TV Licence thing?
geeksauce wrote: » but it is, same as the ESB meter on the side of your house is yours.
knarkypants wrote: » Really? It states at the bottom of their website: "Irish Water. Private Company Limited by Shares. Registered Office Colvill House, 24-26 Talbot Street, Dublin 1. Registered in Ireland. Registered No. 530363"https://www.water.ie/help-centre/contact-us/
sarkozy wrote: » This is precisely my issue. I think incentives for people to conserve water are necessary. But any system introduced to do that needs to be revenue neutral. So, yes, I want the Government to give me back the tax I already pay for our water services.
SaveOurLyric wrote: » Why should it be revenue neutral? The government needs more of your money. They cannot afford to provide you water anymore with the tax you are paying. So yes you will pay you water charge, but you taxes will not increase to pay for it. You are not paying for it twice.
K-9 wrote: » I don't think it is though. If you move house you don't take it with you.
Larbre34 wrote: » The meter equipment remains the property of Irish Water. If it were damaged or obsolete it would be a matter for them to replace it. It is insured by them. It is maintained by them.
geeksauce wrote: » And if it is damaged or tampered with the person being billed for the water will be prosecuted.
Banjo String wrote: » Really? Even though it's located on the public pathways and roads of the country that anyone can access? It's not the same as your gas meter or ESB meter which is usually in or on private property. Do you know who does be on your road all day, or what they do be doing? Because I don't.
