gctest50 wrote: » That's very dodgy advice - - you are telling people to work on a high pressure system not knowing their level of skill - you don't own the water pipe outside your gate - you don't own the meter - you don't have insurance for messing around with public footpaths - if you break up the footpath and someone falls over it, you will pay No doubt if someone tries it and injuries result, being the slithery sort they will try push the blame on a "person on boards"
Frank Lee Midere wrote: » Everybody thinks the NHS is better in the UK because it's an uncriticisable religion. Everybody hates the HSE because Irish people love to hate their own stuff. Statistically they look similar.
S.O wrote: » His comment contradicts the argument some people make on internet forums that water is somehow free and now all of a sudden we need to pay for it, when we already paying for it through general taxation.
Geuze wrote: » The problem is that we have paid taxes plus borrowed to cover the costs of water infrastructure.
Geuze wrote: » There's nothing free. It costs 1 - 1.2bn pa for water. Taxes covered that up until now. In 2013 the State collected 59bn and spent 70bn, leaving a fiscal deficit of 11.5bn. This must fall.
darkpagandeath wrote: » Proof ? As I thought the government did not invest the monies collected to actually fund the infrastructure. That's why it's in the state it is in now, plenty of money in the tiger days yet no investment.
smellmepower wrote: » How big of one though?
AlanS181824 wrote: » I wonder if paying for the stuff that's all around us will finally fix the lime issue in my area... I can literally go through kettles every 2 to 3 weeks!
ankaragucu wrote: » Been reading on social media that Irish water installing meters in your home is a bit like Sky turning up and installing their dish and system in your home?
If you didnt consent to it you dont have to pay.The key being "no consent no contract" . . . . . IS this total guff?
knarkypants wrote: » The problem I have is the government say it costs up to 1.2bn per year to filter water for domestic use but up to 41% of that water is lost through leaks in the system. Surely it makes more sense to invest money into fixing the system which will lead to a massive reduction in the cost of filtering water.
Victor wrote: » If you use the water, you should pay. This is a bit like eating in a restaurant and then objecting to paying.
Victor wrote: » For those bemoaning the cheap doctors in the UK, remember that UK workers can end up paying 26% national insurance (on top of taxes).
Victor wrote: » Then get one of those stainless steel wire meshes that you can rinse out. :rolleyes:
Victor wrote: » Well, are you using Sky or not? If you use the water, you should pay. This is a bit like eating in a restaurant and then objecting to paying.
Victor wrote: » Where will the money come from for identifying and fixing the leaks come from?
WIne Gums wrote: » Irish Water state that households need to apply before 31 October 2014. Their website states "you will need to include your PPS Number in your application". I wrote to the Office of the Data Protection Commission asking if I was obliged to give them this number. They responded-: "Thank you for your recent email to this office. The use of the PPSN is governed by Social Welfare legislation. An entity which is specified in Social Welfare legislation is authorised to request and use the PPSN. We understand that the Social Welfare & Pensions Bill 2014 which is currently proceeding through the Houses of the Oireachtas contains a provision which will authorise Irish Water to use the PPSN. This Office's role is therefore focussed on limiting the access to personal data involved in billing customers and ensuring any such access was covered by law and was proportionate. I can also advise that we are currently reviewing the draft application forms. Yours Sincerely Information Officer Office of the Data Protection Commissioner Canal House Station Road Portarlington Co Laois " My question is-: As the Dail does not return until 17 September 2014, will the legislation get through the Dail before the Irish Water deadline of 31 October 2014 ?, I doubt it. If the Bill does not get through on time and I do not supply my PPSN prior to legislation being passed, will I be denied the water allowance to which I am entitled ?. As of now, Irish Water are not entitled to use my PPSN. Regards.
Geuze wrote: » Our gross debt is 203bn at end-2013.http://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/er/gfsa/governmentfinancestatisticsapril2014/#.U8e7OvldWSo Our interest bill during 2013 was 7.4bn. The gross cost of recapitalising the banks was 64bn. So the gross cost of the banking crisis is 31.5% of our gross public debt. I would suggest, then, that up to 2bn of our annual interest bill is due to the banking crisis. Also, as our public debt rose so high due to the banking crisis, that led to higher interest rates on the public debt. So the banking crisis means: more public debt, at higher interest rates.
Geuze wrote: » Is it true that without a banking crisis and the 64bn cost, we would still have a fiscal deficit, yes.
hucklebuck wrote: » Dougal at it again, "the average charge will not exceed €240" I assume to calculate the average they include eldery people who use very little compared to young people who work that may have two showers a day. No doubt people who have never worked a day in their life are no inluded in average usage as they wont be paying for it.
hucklebuck wrote: » Only catching up but IIRC road tax is meant to cover water.
TwoShedsJackson wrote: » An opinion of your own too much to ask for?
tayto lover wrote: » It never ceases to amaze me how the pro water tax posts are thanked by all the FG supporters (even the one with 5 posts in years). They have the support well organised. They love backing the party even at their cost. Brainwashed i call it. :pac:
Victor wrote: » This was dealt with under the Social Welfare and Pensions Act 2014. You do understand the concept of average, don't you? Just as well then that there is no road tax.
Vincent Round Sunglasses wrote: » Just for the record, I am pro water charges and feel we should have had them years ago but I am not a FG supporter - doesn't mean I won't vote for one of them sometime if I like what they are doing as I'm fickle that way and a real floating voter. Trying to label posters because of their views is a poor argument.
Banjo String wrote: » Ah yeah. That's correct. It's a 'motor tax'. Guess what though, I could legally buy 100 cars, and never have to tax them unless I wish to drive them on an irish road. So it's a road tax in everything but the name.
geeksauce wrote: » Best to call it motor tax then seeing as that is it's name.
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