Sam Russell wrote: » ...... Until 2016 is just 12 months - that only means one season. If UTV go HD, then so must TV3 or lose the audience. Maybe UTV have the HD rights:), or there is some confusion.
iseegirls wrote: » The report says late 2016, so that would mean 2 years really from now. Very confusing, and odd that this is only being brought up now.
iseegirls wrote: » Odd that the soaps and the other tv shows seem to be in different packages though. I would have thought they'd all be bundled in together as one.
Onthe3rdDay wrote: » TV3 were possibly taking a gamble to buy non-exclusive rights because who else in this market would buy it once TV3 had it?
iseegirls wrote: » Yep, I would assume RTE and TG4 would have no such exclusivity deal either with programme rights too. Plus it's maybe up the distributor whether they want to give out exclusivity rights for packages to channels.
Onthe3rdDay wrote: » Your assumption is wrong I'm afraid. RTE and TG4 generally buy full rights to everything they show. It's normal practice that only one station has rights in a Market. (Not talking about syndication reruns here of course)
iseegirls wrote: » generally = in most cases; usually. So that means some shows then, and not all. Same for TV3 so, they have exclusivity deals for some shows like Downton Abbey, and not for others.
Onthe3rdDay wrote: » This is a huge mistake by TV3, A lot of their shows that could have been tied down haven't been or they're making mischief and they're talking about rerun rights. In the UK and the US if this happened whole departments would be fired.[/qu I assume it costs more for exclusivity, maybe TV3 only saw UTV as a potential buyer not as a potential rival. One thing that is being perhaps underplayed is that a lot of management at TV3 have moved to UTVI, no replacements have been anounced afaik. It will be interesting to see the valuation placed on TV3 in the next set of accounts, the loss of key programming and staff will trigger an impairment review. In 2009 a similar review valued Setanta UK at nil and shortly afterwards the station collapsed.
irishmusicfeed wrote: » Is it possible that the shows currently on air with exception to the soaps will not air on UTV Ireland until 2016, this may explain why UTV are proposing showing re-runs of old ITV shows in its schedule upon launch.
Onthe3rdDay wrote: » I find it highly unlikely that they would promote programmes that aren't going to go out on UTV Ireland until 2016 but would still be going out on TV3. Logically when making a presentation to Press and Advertisers you only promote the shows you actually have. The question I would have for TV3 is, do they have new eps of those shows next year or is it possibly rerun rights. They could have repeat rights only for 2015. The Article is actually very unclear. Are they first run rights? It's says Until 2016, does that mean the 1st of January 2016 or 31st of December 2016. This by they way is not TV3's fault, it's just the poor journalism of Independent Newspapers.
irishmusicfeed wrote: » Well if I was the TV3 Group I would just cut all contracts with ITV at the stage and let their shows in limbo until UTV Ireland launches (yes I am aware UTVNI is available on UPC/Sky) and find some more worthy shows which deserve to be on TV3. I would change 3e as soon as possible to a youth orientated channel with a mix of music and youth orientated programming from around the world or ask the BAI to give it permission to change it into an arts/cultural channel or a female skewed channel (TV3 were supposed to launch 3Xpose channel) or get the contract from Irish Film Board to operate the Irish Film Channel (whenever that is supposed to happen). TV3 has a better future than 3e. 3e gets a revamp in November so all will be revealed.
Onthe3rdDay wrote: » They appear to have very little decent material once you strip out the ITV shows.
irishmusicfeed wrote: » ITV is not the be all or end all... there are plenty of other broadcasters to take programming from and I don't mean the UK.... broaden your horizons Ireland stop being so insular.
irishmusicfeed wrote: » T Just some ideas not always possible... but TV3 do not need ITV.
irishmusicfeed wrote: » Netflix has signed TV distribution deals with many broadcasters across Europe for TV broadcasting rights... They can only air on the channels after debuting on Netflix usually 4 to 8 weeks after upload on Netflix.
dublinman1990 wrote: » I remember seeing David McRedmond from a RTE interview a few months ago about the prospect of UTV Ireland coming into the Irish TV Market. He was saying that buying the rights for programmes from the ITV catalouge was very expensive for the station. He said TV3 would a save lot of money in prioritising the new ventures like Red Rock and supposed other new shows. The question I'm asking here is how much of that money is a real saving to TV3 if they are to stop acquiring a lot of these new rights from that same catalouge? I would think that buying the same programmes on repeat rights would be cheaper for TV3, would that not the case for them at all. Also, when I was looking through how much content was taken from TV3 being migrated to UTV Ireland last night. It got me thinking that if TV3 were to survive in this climate, I still think they have a near healthy amount of programmes to keep ticking them over until they have to renew broadcast deals with their foreign shows like Judge Judy and Ellen De Generes or with a few of their acquired US dramas and Films. Their Irish output is good to a degree even though a lot of it is not decent for a lot of viewers most of the time. Their Irish shows would consist of Midday, Xpose, Vincent Browne, Ireland AM, Late Lunch Live, Crossfire, The Lie and they could show repeats of a few Keith Barry shows, Tallafornia and The Apprentice and their documentaries into the mix. They still have rights to the Champions League and Europa League and rights to Ireland's matches from the Rugby World Cup next year. I do agree that TV3 have a future, however, how much of that future will be there to last in the long term.
Cork_chick_94 wrote: » I really can't see this Red rock soap taking off. I think instead they should have tried a teen/young adult soap airing at 5 or 7pm
Sam Russell wrote: » Maybe it is. It is based around a cop shop.
Elmo wrote: » I'd say it will have a wide variety of age groups rather than a teen soap. There's a suggestion that unlike most soaps the 2 episodes will act as 1 single story, with slight story arcs through out.
