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Republic's time zone plan "ludicrous"

failinis

Proposals for a different time zone between Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic have been branded as "ludicrous" by a UUP MLA.
Tom Elliot questioned the impact of a bill, which aims to see the Republic of Ireland move into Central European Time, in border areas.
The Brighter Evenings Bill has been brought forward by Dublin politician Thomas Broughan.
Mr Broughan, who is an Independent TD for Dublin Bay North, has proposed the legislation which would see the Republic undergo a three-year time zone experiment.
If his bill gets support, the clocks would move one hour forward as usual in March, but would not move back in October, bringing the state into line with most countries in Europe.
If agreed, it would mean people travelling between Northern Ireland and the Republic would have to adjust their watches as they crossed the border.

See rest of the article from http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-28832808

I don't see a problem with bringing it more in line with most countries in Europe, and I would like brighter evenings.
Of course then it would be darker mornings, and problems of children walking to school while its still a bit dark etc.

I would agree with the change, but only if NI done the same, I live right on the border and would be a pain in the hole to keep having to think about time zones.

What do you all think?

EDIT
Pawtrick linked this article on Scotland/NI time zone changes
stating that if Scotland gains independence, then England/Wales would change time zone, and if ROI changed, those three would be in the same zone.
Scotland and NI would be the odd ones out.

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yes there

It would probably affect the elderly too much so it wont happen. God forbid they would have to entertain a simple change that a five year old could comprehend and adjust to.

Ficheall

There used to be different time-zones in Ireland, no?

Afaik, the clock tower at the top of Shop St. in Galway still shows "Dublin time", which I believe was half an hour ahead..

FloatingVoter

yes there wrote: »

It would probably affect the elderly too much so it wont happen. God forbid they would have to entertain a simple change that a five year old could comprehend and adjust to.

The elderly have put up with several time zone changes, decimalisation, a World War (eh... Emergency) and a few corrupt governments. They'll manage.

seamus

pickarooney wrote: »

What about when your UK clients call at 5.15 and you're already gone home whereas you used always be still at work?

If they're ringing you 15 minutes before you go home, it's not important. If it is important, they'll be aware that you're an hour ahead and ring at 16:15 instead.

Or, if UK clients are your company's bread-and-butter, you'll start at 10:00 and finish @ 18:30

seamus

Ficheall wrote: »

There used to be different time-zones in Ireland, no?

Afaik, the clock tower at the top of Shop St. in Galway still shows "Dublin time", which I believe was half an hour ahead..

"Dublin time" was 25 minutes behind GMT IIRC, to account for the fact that London is "ahead" of Dublin (i.e. the sun rises and sets earlier).

[Deleted User]

I love how much some Unionists hate change.

bur

I think we should for the hell of it.

Calina

I don't believe the world came to an end when we implemented metric speed limits down here which they still haven't got in the north.

Why does he care what happens down here anyway?

[Deleted User]

yes there wrote: »

It would probably affect the elderly too much so it wont happen. God forbid they would have to entertain a simple change that a five year old could comprehend and adjust to.

Why the hostility towards the elderly?

Sunnyisland

swimming in a sea wrote: »

Spain and Portugal have an hour difference, so wonder anybody have experience of this?

I do that quite often , Have often left supermarket in spain at 1600 and be back home in portugal at 1545 :-)

if you have to be in Spain on business say at 8 in the morning you need to leave portugal at six which is seven in Spain,if you need to be in portugal for eight you can leave spain at eight which is seven in portugal, simples.

[Deleted User]

failinis wrote: »

Of course then it would be darker mornings, and problems of children walking to school while its still a bit dark etc..

I don't think they walk to school anyway

Jimmy444

Strange to see that the UK, who are so anti-EU on most things, are keen to adopt European time. Has anyone checked this with Nigel Farage

How will our American FDI companies cope with being even another hour out of step with us? All those Google people calling head office in California will have to stay another hour at work to attend their conference calls.

Calina

Jimmy444 wrote: »

All those Google people calling head office in California will have to stay another hour at work to attend their conference calls.

Google has offices in Paris and Brussels. Amazon has offices in Luxembourg. I dare say they'd cope if they have to.

Faux Socialist

Would people on the border stay younger for longer?

Cee-Jay-Cee

I think it's a great idea. DST serves absolutely no purpose anymore other than to fcuk things up twice a year. The old argument of children walking to school in the dark is bullsh1t. Children in towns and cities have street lighting and I doubt there are any children in the country walking to school anymore and besides its -almost dark at 4pm during winter anyway so what difference does it make of it's dark in the morning instead.

It's just another ridiculous habit that's continued for absolutely no reason, like closing pubs on Good Friday.

Firefox11

Dont think it would be a good idea. People will only get confused.:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI63m8z4QTs

Faux Socialist

If I'm going to work in the morning at 8 or 9 I personally don't care if it's dark but when I'm coming home in the evening I would like at least one hour of brightness.

Hazys

Can we push the clocks back 10 years into the middle of the Celtic Tiger so we can all be rich again and ball out?

And when the recession and bailouts approaches again, just switch the clocks back 10 years again, creating a never ending wealth cycle...how you like dem apples Ms Merkel?

.

HurtLocker

bloodyhand wrote: »

Do what you want, Ulster is not your problem, you can change your clock by 12 hours for all I care, it's not like we often set foot down there. I say that as an Ulster Catholic.

Well Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan residents would disagree. I say this as a Munster Atheist.

Dayor Knight

bloodyhand wrote: »

Do what you want, Ulster is not your problem, you can change your clock by 12 hours for all I care, it's not like we often set foot down there. I say that as an Ulster Catholic.

Good man yourself. Feel free to stay there.

Dempsey

Alot of Irish business currently deal in markets all around the world, different time zones and even different regular work weeks with minimal fuss. I'd like to get rid of DST. Maybe there was a time it had a purpose but it doesnt anymore, nothing tangible from what I can see. I'd like Ireland to find solutions to Irish problems and not go with the easiest solution or being easily led by other countries. Knowing this mess of a country, we'll wait until the UK decides it wants to change to CET and then ride their coat tails rather than do whats best for this country

MRnotlob606

do we have to pay more USC ?

Richard

Trigger Happy wrote: »

Look, this is Ireland. If we did change timezone it would be something like what India have.
30 mins ahead/behind their neighbours. Confuse the fck out of all of them!

10am in Paris = 9:30 in Dublin = 9:00 in London.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it Thomas Broughan

Until 1916 (June, I think), Ireland was 25 minutes behind the rest of the British Isles. So any Easter rising commemorations that refer to a particular time are wrong, because the time zone was GMT -0:25.

better call saul

Why not go seven hours ahead so we wouldn't have to wake up in the cold in the winter

The Diabolical Monocle

Yes, but only if theres almost certainty that it can be used to get a petty one over on the unionists.

Richard

The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »

Yes, but only if theres almost certainty that it can be used to get a petty one over on the unionists.

Who, in this case, want to stay united in the same time zone as the rest of Ireland...

yes there

FloatingVoter wrote: »

The elderly have put up with several time zone changes, decimalisation, a World War (eh... Emergency) and a few corrupt governments. They'll manage.

They will resist it, of course they would manage.

Candie wrote: »

Why the hostility towards the elderly?

Not hostility, just stating the obvious.

Jimmy444

There’s a few people here who should read what is in the Bill before posting and adding to the confusion. The proposal is to put the clocks on the same time as Central Europe. There will still be DST (putting the hour forward in summer and back in winter, as they do in Central European Time now).

If the earth was flat then one time zone would suffice. But it’s not, and the further west you go the later the sun rises. The US, one country, has 4 time zones (5 if you include Alaska). Russia has 10.

The UK and Ireland are a long way west of Central Europe and have no land border causing the kind of complications you can have in US states where a neighbouring town can have a 1-hour difference. To me it makes complete sense to have a separate zone. I never had much difficulty arranging phone calls with colleagues and customers in Europe. The US needs a bit more planning, and this would get worse if we change. The West Coast would be nine hours behind, longer than a typical working day, so there’s very little overlap during working hours for people who need to call or get quick e-mail responses.

This is being driven by Westminster, and they are a lot less affected than we are. On January 15th, sunrise in London is 07:58. This would become 08:58 if the change happens. On the same date, sunrise in Dublin is 08:31, which would be 09:31 if the change is made. Sunrise in Galway on that day would be 09:42. On the shortest day, Dec 21, it would be even worse.

I remember when they did the experiment with leaving the clocks on DST during the winter for a couple of years in the 70’s. Going to school in the pitch dark in the rain is a misery I was glad to see the back of when the trial was abandoned. The proposed change would have the same effect in winter.

MS.ing

clearly doesnt have a clue about why timezones are used. its laterally not horizontally the ****in moron :rolleyes:
its so the daylight hours are kept the same, the sun moves west to east not north to south

Bog Standard User

Hazys wrote: »

Can we push the clocks back 10 years into the middle of the Celtic Tiger so we can all be rich again and ball out?

And when the recession and bailouts approaches again, just switch the clocks back 10 years again, creating a never ending wealth cycle...how you like dem apples Ms Merkel?

.

would it not be better to go back 15 years and not vote for fianna fail????