Theimprover wrote: » Gloomastic in this thread http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=84049114 swears by it and he says it has the exact same ingredients too what ever he was using before, was costing him €49 a bag so his previous food you would imagine was a premium food and he is using Gains with a few years http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056406786
Magenta wrote: » OP, a tin of tuna every day is a LOT of mercury. Just an FYI- better to alternate with other meats.
Theimprover wrote: » @ muddypaws, what would be an ideal weight for a Mal, she is between 2-3 years, she does look a bit on the chubby size, might have a job trying to weigh her atm as she still a bit nervous.
Theimprover wrote: » I find my gsd gets bored of the food even now getting bored of the tuna mixed in, Tried both today with a raw egg mixed in with there feed and they scoffed it but I wonder how many eggs is too much?? The Mal has had a few smelly ones tonight so might keep her away from the eggs or she will end up having the house to herself lol
Into The Blue wrote: » wthax.org/5tq3WB.jpg Can I get members opinions on this? I'm a newbie, so can't attach the pic. Thanks.
Into The Blue wrote: » Getting there!! omg.wthax.org/8pQR43.jpg Thanks.
Protein 22% Fibre 2.5% Ash 6% Ingredients Wheat, Chicken meat meal, Chicken Fat, Wheatfeed, Beet pulp, pods etc. Recommended feeding: 1 - 3 kg, resting 25 - 57g, active 33 - 75g 3 - 5kg, resting 57 - 86g, active 75 - 112g
ElKavo wrote: » Better than some, but wheat is still your first ingredient. Good to see that it isn't animal derivatives isn't on the list either.
Lisa Pierson graduated from UC Davis School of Veterinary Medicine in 1984, article Learn How to Read a Pet Food Ingredient Label wrote: "Chicken meal" is technically a muscle meat but the term "meal" denotes that it has been rendered (cooked for a long time at very high temperatures) and is lower quality than meat that has not been as heavily processed.
Nody wrote: » Poor. Wheat as primary, Chicken meal flour as secondary (you never want meat as flour) and then on beet pulp etc. and only 22% protein. If it was being bought around 1 EUR / kg it's priced about right; anything beyond that is probably overpriced. And to save people time here's the summary information:
muddypaws wrote: » What do you mean chicken meal flour? Its chicken meat meal, which is ground up, dried chicken.
Nody wrote: » Poor. Wheat as primary, Chicken meal as secondary (you never want meat as meal) and then on beet pulp etc. and only 22% protein. If it was being bought around 1 EUR / kg it's priced about right; anything beyond that is probably overpriced. And to save people time here's the summary information:
maggiepip wrote: » Meat as meatmeal is just basically dried meat so the moisture has been taken out of it. Dont think theres anything terrible about it.
Meat and bone meal (MBM) is a product of the rendering industry. It is typically about 48–52% protein, 33–35% ash, 8–12% fat, and 4–7% moisture. It is primarily used in the formulation of animal feed to improve the amino acid profile of the feed. Feeding of MBM to cattle is thought to have been responsible for the spread of BSE (mad cow disease). In most parts of the world, MBM is no longer allowed in feed for ruminant animals. However, MBM is still used to feed monogastric animals. It is widely used in the United States as a low-cost meat in dog food and cat food.[1]
Of course, not all meat meals are created equal. Some are of very high quality while others are positively awful. It all boils down to the stew’s contents — the raw materials. And one critically important principle… No meal product can ever be better than the raw materials that were used to make it. Better meals are typically made from the meat of clearly identified sources. Low-grade meals come from anonymous materials like slaughterhouse waste and spoiled supermarket meats — even diseased or dying cattle — or dead zoo animals. Avoid dog foods containing any meat meal that: Includes the words “by-products” in its nae Fails to identify the specific source animal: Here are some examples of inferior meat-based protein ingredients. Notice the generic nature of the phrases: Meat meal Animal meal Chicken by-product meal Meat and bone meal Glandular meal Poultry meal Blood meal When you see ingredients like these in any recipe, it’s a sign you’re probably looking at a lower quality dog food.
maggiepip wrote: » Also America has different regulations that I dont know too much about, but all dogfood produced in the EU must come from animals fit for human consumption, the byproducts of these animals must be classed unfit for human consumption but they are still coming from healthy animals. Derivatives and by-products in dogfood can simply be innards too like heart,lung etc which are actually good for dogs, the trick is trying to find out exactly what they actually are. You certianly dont get dying sick animals put into European dogfood.
maggiepip wrote: » Derivatives and by-products in dogfood can simply be innards too like heart,lung etc which are actually good for dogs, the trick is trying to find out exactly what they actually are. You certianly dont get dying sick animals put into European dogfood.
