StewDent wrote: » Anyone who has done the Leaving Cert previously to this year, has your results showed up on your CAO application yet? I'm just a little paranoid they won't have my LC results from 2012 come offers day....
woopah92 wrote: » Mine just says the year and my exam number from that year... If it doesn't show up I'll cry :eek:
Daa95 wrote: » mine just has my lc number and the year i sat it but they sent me out a letter from the cao with my points and list of choices did you get one?
StewDent wrote: » Was that recently or a couple of weeks back?
Raspberry Fileds wrote: » There was almost no change (0.3%) in numbers achieving Medicine points - 540*. There a 3% increase in those scoring 580*+, but that only equates to thirty people. Only the Higher Maths reduction, therefore, is potentially significant. *Doesn't include BP
back to back wrote: » thanks for information .every bit helps in making prediction do you mean 0.3% of the 56,990 who sat the exam?
Longford Lad 1995 wrote: » I managed to get 7 A1's in the Leaving Cert this year and yet am very unlikely to get a place in Medicine this year thanks to the farce that is the HPAT. For all of you here well on the way to getting a place, spare a thought for me.
woopah92 wrote: » What was your HPAT score? There's always the option of repeating it if you're sure you want medicine..
anones1012 wrote: » The Hpat isn't something that is supposed to be repeatable. It is supposed to measure how good of a doctor you might be, you can't really change that. Yes you can practice and inflate results in standardized testing but I wouldn't suggest it, some poor fellow will be left out when you take the place he should have gotten. Take what ever college course you get you are just as likely to enjoy it.
sillydog10 wrote: » what you should be doing is being like "this farce of an exam has f***ed me over big time. I'm going to make it my life next year and make it my b****".
AtomicKoala wrote: » No offence, but the HPAT was put in place so as to prevent people with little emotional and logical aptitude getting in. I'd imagine if you did get 7 A1s your HPAT should get you in - if not, you probably had to work harder than a lot of people for that result, so fair fücks to you.
back to back wrote: » this year 2.9% of students got >550 points ( excluding BP) in 2013 , 3% of students got >550 points hence there is a REDUCTION of .1% of students this year (i.e.55 students ) all pointing towards an optimistic prediction with the reduction in no. in A1 in hons maths
Slow Show wrote: » Maybe the HPAT was implemented for that purpose, but its success in that department is up for debate! :pac: Plenty of people with perfectly satisfactory emotional and logical aptitude don't do well in it, I know plenty of people in my class who repeated or scraped in by the skin of their teeth and doing a poor HPAT says nothing about their ability to be good doctors tbh! This isn't just at you AK it's at all the posts on this page with a similar viewpoint, could only quote one on my phone!
AtomicKoala wrote: » Yeah no bother Slow Show I think it's definitely more effective than just a simple points based system (mind you I am rather biased :pac:). I think the issue with people repeating would be solved if ACER gave out some interactive online practice material, for free. As it is now, students with money can afford to shell out to gain an advantage (I did ME). People forget that LC results fluctuate quite a bit too. Anyway, plenty of people with great HPATs get caught out by the LC - a friend got 95th percentile, but I guess a combination of bad luck and lack of work bit them in the end. Another friend got 77th (she didn't do a prep course), but got 625. I'd imagine if she had done more than just the one shïte ACER practice test she would've done much better - this is the fundamental issue that needs solving imo.
AtomicKoala wrote: » I think the issue with people repeating would be solved if ACER gave out some interactive online practice material, for free. AI'd imagine if she had done more than just the one shïte ACER practice test she would've done much better - this is the fundamental issue that needs solving imo.
imsocool chillininda pool wrote: » "I think the issue with people repeating would be solved if ACER gave out some interactive online practice material, for free." I don't think this will ever happen. The point of the hpat is to give us a test which we "can't study for" i.e. something totally different to the lc. If ACER gives out more and more practice material it further undermines their test.
imsocool chillininda pool wrote: » "I think the issue with people repeating would be solved if ACER gave out some interactive online practice material, for free." I don't think this will ever happen. The point of the hpat is to give us a test which we "can't study for" i.e. something totally different to the lc. If ACER gives out more and more practice material it further undermines their test. The only fair way to reduce the amount of people repeating the hpat is to modify the rules so that you have to sit hpat and lc in the same year. In 2010 out of 434 places 111 were taken by people who repeated hpat in their first year of college. it is very unfair to people who can't pay the fees to change course, and who have to do both exams the same year. It also leaves an empty place on (usually) a cracking course. I thought there would be way more discussion on here about the questions on our hpat which the ME course people had seen already. With places for medicine coveted I expected someone to sue ACER for the unfairness!
sillydog10 wrote: » The questions that were on previous med entry papers were excluded from marking, so the people that already did the questions didn't gain anything
EoghanIRL wrote: » Not true . I respect your opinion but consider my perspective. What if I spent more time doing those questions than the others ? What if they were the ones I got right because I spent more time doing them. What about the people who's plan was not to answer every question and did those ones instead of other ones ?
