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Love/Hate

Brego888

Just finished the first season of Love/Hate.
What the hell was all the fuss about? It's like fair city on steroids

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Brego888

MS.ing wrote: »

only difference is the accent, location, budget and car reges

And quality of acting and storyline.

Mr. CooL ICE

Some of the acting is poor, but it's the best series RTE has produced in a long, long time.

Irishcrx

I think it's the best Irish show there has been in a long time. But hey, it's not for everyone like anything else.

yaboya1

MS.ing wrote: »

theres not many series on tv that has me waiting for it to come back, but Love/Hate is one of them. Its stylish and well done which is what makes a show to me like The Killing (US one)

Its like an irish Sopranos

That is insulting to The Sopranos.

jimgoose

Never seen it. Watching guttersnipes murder each other and intimidate and rob decent people is not my idea of entertainment.

Reindeer

Brego888 wrote: »

Just finished the first season of Love/Hate.
What the hell was all the fuss about? It's like fair city on steroids

Dunno, it's whether you prefer to watch a bunch of paranoid men shoot one another on occasion or a bunch of paranoid women stab each other in the back every ep... choose your poison.

mikeym

Love/Hate is the best show on RTE

ancapailldorcha

mikeym wrote: »

Love/Hate is the best show on RTE

I think it's the best thing they've ever made. I can't believe it even got made considering how graphic parts of it are.

eisenberg1

Reindeer wrote: »

Dunno, it's whether you prefer to watch a bunch of paranoid men shoot one another on occasion or a bunch of paranoid women stab each other in the back every ep... choose your poison.

You should check out "Glenroe":D

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Aww-roii Tommy!!!!

Nidge, ledgebag!!!

See him in real life though? The state of him. He has like black hair. Rough

anncoates

Tony EH wrote: »

The introduction of Fran took it up several notches.

Yeah the development of Fran and also the introduction of the IRA really improved it, I think.

Even it's not to people's taste, it's good to see decent indigenous drama being made here.

cournioni

I have all series of Love/Hate on DVD. It's okay, but doesn't come close to living up to the hype surrounding it.

Take away the Irish/Dublin accents and we would barely be talking about it.

BuilderPlumber

I think this is an excellent series. Season 1 was too short at 4 episodes but it did well in that 4 episodes. The last 2 of the 4 being very exciting and tense. Some called it Fair City on speed, etc. In fairness, Fair City ain't a bad soap imo: it is often much stronger than many of the British ones. Fair City ironically is at its best when we have drug dealer characters in it like Billy Meehan. Like those in Love/Hate, FC's drug dealers are often based on real life ones.

I think everyone expected Love/Hate to be yet another Big Bow Wow or Trouble in Paradise but most were taken aback at how good it was. Season 2 built things up and by then the series was cemented as a regular and removed any doubts.

Season 3 was the absolute best and with rape scenes and savage fights with lots of blood, this went way beyond anything on Irish TV from previous times, yes, inclusive of previous seasons of Love/Hate itself. Season 3 was criticised for its extreme violence. But in these 6 episodes, we see what real gangland is: violence, death, fear and deals.

Season 4 I think was excellent too but because it followed the best season (3), it disappointed many. Yet, it is to me the second best and also the second most violent. Nidge has been one of these character like Dallas' JR Ewing who originally was not even meant to be the main character but who became the main character due to public demand. He is violent, cunning, ruthless and ambitious but also can be kind, generous and very likeable.

What annoys me is when people start comparing it to US shows about drug dealers and gangsters. Each show should be regarded in its own right. There is only one Miami Vice, Breaking Bad, The Sopranos, The Wire, etc. Similarly, there is only one Love/Hate. All these shows do deal with drug dealers and gangsters/organised crime and in very different ways. Some are solely gangster orientated, some are cops v gangsters and some mix the two. All are excellent shows when at their best. But none of them can really be compared to each other specifically. Love/Hate is not the Irish remake of any of the above either.

Birroc

It's a documentary made in Dublin right?

Lenin Skynard

I think it's brilliant, really well produced. Don't be put off by the first couple of seasons, it gets much better from season three on, but it helps to watch the first seasons to know who's who and what their history is.

BuilderPlumber

Birroc wrote: »

It's a documentary made in Dublin right?

You could say that!! I remember watching Love/Hate the last few years and seeing a gangland shooting reported on the news before it. Darren then went ahead and did the very same in Love/Hate!!

5uspect

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

I think it's brilliant, really well produced. Don't be put off by the first couple of seasons, it gets much better from season three on, but it helps to watch the first seasons to know who's who and what their history is.

Thought the consensus was that season three was the weakest?

The guy

Brego888 wrote: »

Just finished the first season of Love/Hate.
What the hell was all the fuss about? It's like fair city on steroids

It's more like Fair City with guns.

Cienciano

First couple of seasons was very good imho. But really running out of ideas in the last season.

[Deleted User]

5uspect wrote: »

Thought the consensus was that season three was the weakest?

Really? I thought the consensus was that 3 was the best

BuilderPlumber

The guy wrote: »

It's more like Fair City with guns.

Fair city had its fair share of guns and gangsters too. Remember Sylvester Garrigan, Billy Meehan, the Flynns, Paddy Bishop, etc. This current Robbie guy does not seem too wholesome either. Dan in self defense putting this guy braindead in the hospital is a little too like the Tommy story in Love/Hate though!

The Purveyor of Truth

They'll never better Bracken.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbypfjTJha0

One of my earliest memories as a child was one morning when I was home sick from school and listening to a radio show where people where phoning in and complaining that you could see the shape of one of the cast's nipples in a scene. She was wearing a woolen jumper apparently. I've tried to find the scene but no joy.

djflawless

Brego888 wrote: »

What the hell was all the fuss about?

Best thing on Irish telly since the whole Glenroe/tractor incident!!

FunLover18

Sir Oxman wrote: »

Season? Season???
I fckin hate that usage.

SERIES.
SERIES.
SERIES.

Bog off with yer feckin sycophantic Americanisms.

Boils my piss, that does.

PS yes, it's overhyped and basically ****.

Because calling just one year of a show and the entire show itself both a 'series' isn't confusing. You can't deny there's a certain logic to calling them seasons, they do only come around at certain times of the year

There's a good article on the difference here if you care THAT much

The words are pretty much synonymous but saying that 'season' is an affectation is silly. If anything insisting that 'season' is American and therefore wrong is the real affectation

deco nate

Tbh, it's a rip off of an Australian show called under belly.
If you haven't seen it, then go on the net and buy it.

You're welcome

Ibetit

yes They all die in the end.
That's the happy ending

SeantheMan

deco nate wrote: »

Tbh, it's a rip off of an Australian show called under belly.
If you haven't seen it, then go on the net and buy it.
You're welcome

My brother was always telling me about that show and how amazing it was when he was living in Oz at the time.
Still haven't got around to watching it

EyeSight

deco nate wrote: »

Tbh, it's a rip off of an Australian show called under belly.
If you haven't seen it, then go on the net and buy it.
You're welcome

The only similarity is the subject of gangland. Otherwise they are very different. Underbelly is a reenactment of true events, Love/hate is fiction.
I've seen the first 3 seasons of underbelly and found it a little cheesy. Season 3 was good in fairness though so once Netflix puts up the rest i'll watch them

deco nate

EyeSight wrote: »

The only similarity is the subject of gangland. Otherwise they are very different. Underbelly is a reenactment of true events, Love/hate is fiction.
I've seen the first 3 seasons of underbelly and found it a little cheesy. Season 3 was good in fairness though so once Netflix puts up the rest i'll watch them

The first season of love /hate shares so many scenes that were in under belly , it's crazy.

But it's been a long time since I've seen it. Yet at the time I first saw love /hate I said to myself that it Was a rip off.

blade1

Anyone watching Gomorrah?
Italian crime series on Atlantic.
Love it!