unseenfootage wrote: » I don't think they support ISIS . I also think this guy is mistaken about the flag. I checked on the FB page and there aren't any ISIS flags there.
gugleguy wrote: » Look on Eirigi Ballyfermot;s facebook page. Indeed the ISIS flag does show up, as the flag of "The Popular Front for Liberation"
comongethappy wrote: » Not implausible. They think communism is a good idea, so they wouldn't be the sharpest knives in the set
.jacksparrow. wrote: » Wrong.
unseenfootage wrote: » Great news.
comongethappy wrote: » Indeed. Hopefully if ISIS are pushed back, they will be able to go home instead of displacing within Iraq.
biko wrote: » It's "funny" how many of the ISIS fighters are citizens from European countries, having flown in to fight for Allah. They can just return to their European country when they like. There are an estimated 500 ISIS fighter with UK citizenship in ME. So we can in theory end up with a persecuted Yazidi civilian, seeking asylum in UK, living next door to the ISIS soldier that tried to kill him in Iraq.
unseenfootage wrote: » You're deflecting from the fact that the whole crisis and concern is just a bloody polava.
comongethappy wrote: » In your opinion. The UN said a catastrophe was imminent. Air strikes push back ISIS..... People flee from mountainside. Just because your preset agenda wants to consider it a "palava" doesn't make it so. Had the US sat on their hands & today hundreds of Yazidi lay dead, Im inclined to think you would be in the vanguard blaming America for allowing it to happen.
unseenfootage wrote: » I mean Guardian , a liberal left newspaper wrote a editorial in support of Obama's intervention in Iraq. Now they seemed to be backtracking and half its commentators are questioning the whole situation. Whole bloody polava! That's all it was.
unseenfootage wrote: » But there was no plan to genocide the Yazidis. The facts speak for themselves. - They were exiled. - There was no siege. - Most of them escaped, many of them to Syria and were then subsequently escorted back to Iraq by the Kurds. So once again. The whole think is a polava based on the reports we are getting in western media. I mean Guardian , a liberal left newspaper wrote a editorial in support of Obama's intervention in Iraq. Now they seemed to be backtracking and half its commentators are questioning the whole situation. Whole bloody polava! That's all it was.
unseenfootage wrote: » ^ This is not an Israeli thread and you are equally and incredibly ignorant if you believe that they would have flown the Hamas flag. The flag is the Palestinian flag actually. But that little fact would not have afforded you the pretext to go on a pro israel , anti hamas rant.
DeadHand wrote: » Ironic. You've been engaging in whataboutery constantly in this thread. You brought the Mexican mafia into it a one stage.
DeadHand wrote: » The American air strikes and Peshmerga operations in the area were key factors in pushing ISIS back and allowing the Yazidi time to escape in such numbers.
unseenfootage wrote: » Did they bomb sinjar as well?
comongethappy wrote: » Iraq said its air force did so, killing 40+ militants & a few vehicles.
unseenfootage wrote: » A couple of posts ago it was america and peshmerga, now its the iraqi airforce. Nevertheless. US interference did nothing to help. The Yazidis were allowed to leave. They were never under siege. That was all a bunch of lies. Even daily mail readers, have cottoned on to this fraud.
Since Saturday the US has launched four rounds of air strikes on Isis positions, checkpoints, vehicles and artillery in the vicinity of the mountain and the town of Sinjar at its foot. The most recent was a drone strike occurring at midday on Wednesday eastern time. All the strikes have come to the south, south-east and south-west of Mount Sinjar, with the northern slope – apparently where the Yazidis' descent has occurred – left unharassed.
unseenfootage wrote: » That was part of a wider narrative and the mexican mafia was added just for good measure. He came here talking about flags and then straight onto defending Israel.
unseenfootage wrote: » The beheading started some time back. Context does matter. A beheading done in the course of battle is not quite the same as a beheading done during the course of a crime, such as the punishment meted out by Mexican drug cartels. Yes, beheadings are particularly brutal but not more than say, a bomb dropped from a drone bomber or a fighter jet, or barrel bombs dropped from helicopters that dismembers and shreds to smithereens its victims, indiscriminately at times. As far as I know, IS is not the only group in the region who behead their enemies. There are well documented cases of other groups doing it. It is important to note that this punishment is only done on the battlefield. I have not come across ordinary criminals being beheaded. The crucifixions are not proper crucifixions where a person is nailed alive to a cross. The victim is first executed and then "crucified," in public, usually at the Town square. This is done to deter other would be criminals from any evil intentions. Crucifixions are for certain classes of crimes, such as rape or highway robbery which have elements of terrorism against civilians. Without minimizing the brutality of IS, there are far worse acts of brutality and violence that occur in Syria. Assad's crimes, from the forced starvation, rapes, torture, massacres, barrel bombs are well documented and witnessed IS however, gets the lions share of attention because of their Islamic credentials and their threat to the tyrants who rule over the middle East as well as their threat to Israel.
unseenfootage wrote: » It's far more scummy and cowardly to cold bloodedly murder children in Pakistan, Yemen and Afghanistan from a drone base thousands of miles away in America than to do behead an enemy combatant whom you have caught before he could kill you.
unseenfootage wrote: » We could start with the violence of the IDF and US Army and the violence of IS and the Buddhist monks in Burma and the Christian militia in CAR and maybe finish off with the Shia death squads in Baghdad or even the Mexican drug cartels.
DeadHand wrote: » http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/14/iraq-crisis-us-britain-rescue-yazidis-mount-sinjar Far from "did nothing to help" US strikes, along with Peshmerga activity, were instrumental in insuring the Yazidi's escape. If the Yazidi were not under siege, what were 30-40 thousand of them doing on a bare mountainside for the past week? Camping trip? If ISIS are not active around Mount Sinjar (ie. besieging it) who exactly are the US bombing? Who exactly are the Peshmerga in the area fighting? What are they defending the Yazidi from?
All the strikes have come to the south, south-east and south-west of Mount Sinjar, with the northern slope – apparently where the Yazidis' descent has occurred – left unharassed.
DeadHand wrote: » Whatboutery.
unseenfootage wrote: » How many Christians, Druze, Shia or Jews have been murdered by IS?http://www.genocidewatch.org/syria.htmlhttps://www.google.ie/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=genocide+syria You claim that IS is more genocidal than Assad? Can you please substantiate this? Facts and figures please.
DeadHand wrote: » Figures for what ISIS is doing are thin on the ground and they are just getting started (not that I'm saying Assad is finished by any means). Clearly, ISIS have not yet killed more people than Assad but their agendas, ambitions, motivations and policies are more genocidal than his. The organizations rival each other in terms of pure evil and my hope would be that they wear themselves down to the benefit of more moderate forces. Fact remains: The Middle East is a safer place with Assad in Damascus than it would be with ISIS there. The devil you know.
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