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Ultra Discussion Thread

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1





    Badwater was held this past week]
    Alice odonnel just finished in 44 hrs...well done


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    ultraman1 wrote: »
    Alice odonnel just finished in 44 hrs...well done

    Alice? Alice? Who the f****..... :p
    It's Aoife O'Donnell


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1


    menoscemo wrote: »
    Alice? Alice? Who the f****..... :p
    It's Aoife O'Donnell

    Spell checker was in German


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭Enduro


    Were you due to take part yourself? I see you ran last year and in 2010.

    I was targetting it alright (I think I've been to 5 24 hour WCs). But quite a few of our good runners have been building their season towards it, so its a real smack in the face for them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1


    Well done ankers99 on winning. Conn 100


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1


    ultraman1 wrote: »
    Well done ankers99 on winning. Conn 100
    15:45


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    ultraman1 wrote: »
    15:45

    Or 15:48. In any case, that's an astonishing performance!
    Brilliant running!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1


    Or 15:48. In any case, that's an astonishing performance!
    Brilliant running!
    And 10 seconds,,:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭DogSlySmile


    Hey all,

    I'm two weeks out from my 100k (CCC), just looking for a bit of advice on how long my long run should be this weekend.

    I made up a plan months ago and have stuck to it pretty well. But over the last couple of weeks I've decided to take a lot of mileage out (I was supposed to be hitting 90mpw but knocked that back to 60mpw) as I've been tired/picking up niggles/havent been able to recover properly.

    Weekend mileage for the last couple of months coming up to the race has been:
    18 and 14
    24 and 9
    22 and 20
    39 and 34 (stone mad)
    13 and 12 (recovery wk)
    22 and 0
    31 and 0
    28 and 4

    On the plan I've 30m and 14m for this weekend. I'm thinking thats far too much two weeks out from the race. But dont know what to drop it back to. I'll probably do 27-28ish miles mon-fri.

    Any ideas on the long run(s)?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    On the plan I've 30m and 14m for this weekend. I'm thinking thats far too much two weeks out from the race. But dont know what to drop it back to. I'll probably do 27-28ish miles mon-fri.

    30/14 seems a bit excessive 2 weeks before a race, alright. Then again, I do know a couple of lunatics ultra runners who wouldn't bat an eyelid over a 30/14 weekend at any time.

    However, the answer to how much you should do is the same as always, namely: it depends.

    It depends on how quickly you usually recover, how you're feeling, how much else is going on in your life, and so on.

    I tend to take it very conservatively the last couple of weeks before a big race. Two weeks out from Belfast I only did 8/12+ miles on the weekend, though the Sunday run was mostly on a mountain trail with plenty of climbing.

    My personal view is that with 2 weeks left the training is done and dusted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1


    As Thomas said ..err on side of caution..ur not gonna get any fitter in two weeks..maintain and recover


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭Enduro


    As Thomas says, it really is an individual thing (And I'd definitely be one of the lunatics that he refers to :)). There are nearly as many theories on ultra training as there are ultra runners.

    With two weeks to go to what is presumably your target race for the season your training is done. Time to switch focus onto being as well prepared for the race as possible. The main thing I would say is do whatever you're going to be happiest with, and don't sweat the small details. Mental attitude and preparation is just as important as physical, so don't let minor details about training plans worry you. (I would say burn the training plan myself!).

    My own advice would be do the milage, but keep it comfortable. A nice easy jog around to keep the feet and legs used to covering milage (and keep the fat burning system well tuned!), but without putting in any effort or strain to tire yourself. Just do it on feel without worrying about the numbers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭DogSlySmile


    Cheers for the advice, guys. Much appreciated.

    I suppose I'm just in that panicky "have I done enough/can I cram in one more long run just to make sure" phase. :o

    Whatever I do I'll be sure to take it handy. No point in stressing myself at this stage of training, it wont help on race day. I suppose the training for the race is done and I have to have confidence in what I did in the last 3-4 months rather than worrying about one more long run.

    Thanks again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    ultraman1 wrote: »
    Well done ankers99 on winning. Conn 100

    Link to ankers99 race report.
    http://ankers99.blogspot.ie/2014/08/connemara-100-2014-run-experience.html?m=1

    Pretty impressive performance considering he was running 30-40 mile weeks and this was his first time stepping up to this kind of distance.
    I was plugging his time into McMillan there and it shows a Marathon equivalent of 2:44; which given his marathon Pb (yet to break 3hrs) and the fact he had limited training shows a very bright future at the longer ultra distances IMO


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭career move


    menoscemo wrote: »
    Link to ankers99 race report.
    http://ankers99.blogspot.ie/2014/08/connemara-100-2014-run-experience.html?m=1

    Pretty impressive performance considering he was running 30-40 mile weeks and this was his first time stepping up to this kind of distance.
    I was plugging his time into McMillan there and it shows a Marathon equivalent of 2:44; which given his marathon Pb (yet to break 3hrs) and the fact he had limited training shows a very bright future at the longer ultra distances IMO
    What a fantastic performance and a race report to match. Very entertaining. Well done ankers99.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭nerraw1111


    Full 30 minute documentary on Ryan Sandes 220km Drakensberg Grand Traverse record.

    Only available online for a limited time.

    http://www.redbull.com/za/en/adventure/stories/1331672300014/travailen-full-version


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭nerraw1111


    Watched this last night. Highly recommend it.

    Brilliant documentary and the cinematography is superb. Incredible landscape.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭nerraw1111


    Some inspiration for anyone heading to Chamonix next week.

    Short clip on what is Skyrunning.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭nerraw1111


    The Kerry Way Ultra is on at the moment, 200km.

    You can follow the live tracking here:

    http://maps.opentracking.co.uk/kerryway14.cfm

    Paul Tierney is currently leading, last year's winner Stefaan D'Espallier is a close second.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1


    Enduro in 22nd place in tour de gantes,,at 232km at mo with 100km to go...Dan Doherty in top 10


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1


    ultraman1 wrote: »
    Enduro in 22nd place in tour de gantes,,at 232km at mo with 100km to go...Dan Doherty in top 10
    http://www.tordesgeants.it/live/webcam/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭belcarra


    I see Dan is now in 6th with Enduro in 19th...closing in on 18th.


  • Registered Users Posts: 830 ✭✭✭ocnoc


    nerraw1111 wrote: »
    Transvulania

    Looks like serious fun!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭Enduro


    Just back in Ireland after the Tor Des Geants trip. I think I can safely say that was the best running race I've ever had the pleasure to participate in.... Wow! It really is an incredible event. It's only going to get more and more popular as its reputation grows. The course is truely awesome. We managed to luck out completely with the weather. Even more luckily we had a full moon on the first night, so every night there was incredible views across the alps bathed in moonlight (with regular thunderstorms in the distance illuminating the landscape even more spectacularly).

    In the end Dan finished 6th (A world class performance), and I managed to haul my way through the field after some early difficulties to finish 15th. For a non-alpine country Ireland is getting some great results here. I'll definitely have to write a wee report on this one!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭lgk


    Super result Enduro! Just back from trekking the TMB. Got to see the start of the UTMB in Chamonix and took a day off in Courmayeur as they were doing the final prep for the TDG start. The buzz about for both races has me wanting to go back to take part. Don't think I'd ever be able to get the body into the kind of shape required to take on the Tor Des Geants though...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭groovyg




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭Enduro


    Met Gary out there a few times. He's a great guy. Very funny and great company in real life. Hope his recovery goes well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 830 ✭✭✭ocnoc


    ....Then the long, long climb up to the highest part of the course, where I actually discovered, like some sort of B list X-Men character, that I had a secondary breathing system which allowed me to breathe out my arse.

    ....I went all the way up, stopping every now and then to pretend to check out the sights but in reality to try and stuff my diaphragm back behind my teeth somewhere

    ....when I felt myself falling asleep on my feet and my mind beginning to wander, I grabbed one of these fences and held on for dear life, usually the one shock was enough to give me a good ten minutes of lucidity, but now and then, particularly approaching dawn, I had to ride the lightning for a second and third jolt. Somehow my addled brain thought this was an act of genius.

    Fantastic read. Hope the recover is the best case scenario.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1


    Ankers and aidan currently 2nd + 3rd at tooting bec 24 hr..@runandbecome.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,402 ✭✭✭ger664


    Ankers is leading with 8Hr40 on the clock.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    ultraman1 wrote: »
    Ankers and aidan currently 2nd + 3rd at tooting bec 24 hr..@runandbecome.....

    Good luck to them, especially to Brian. I strongly suspect he would be aiming to run 220k with an eye on next years championships in Turin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1


    Leader board at 10hrs......Good nite


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 524 ✭✭✭b.harte


    I see here that a right clash of the Titans is going to go down next week with our very own Ultraman1 toeing the line with Boards.ie's favourite celebrity ultra-runner...the one and only Dean "UltraMarathon-Man" Karnazes

    Anto, can you ask how he gets that extra sheen going on and does the oil give him an advantage?
    Any chance you would give them a quick squeeze to see if they're not implants?
    A selfie with him oiled up in the background on the photos of where you run thread F.T.W.!!

    Hope things work out for you - truly epic by all accounts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    65 miles at 10 hours
    76.5 miles at 12.5 hours
    93 miles at 18 (oh dear!) :(
    99 miles at 20

    ByCqb5EIQAA82pF.jpg:large

    Well done for keeping going, but I say he'll be gutted


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1


    20hrs....aidan out wit stomach issues,ankers Is bollixedd....And 3 burds are winning it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭Enduro


    Hard luck for the lads. It's a tough event which can give anyone a bad day when things are less than optimal.

    Best of luck in Greece Ultraman!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 347 ✭✭dukeraoul


    I have to admit- as much as I enjoy trolling Enduro/ Ultra, those Alpine runs he and a few of the other lads on here just did looks friggin awesome....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Ultraman 1 goes in the Spartathlon tomorrow. I set up a thread to follow him here

    Best of Luck Anto!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭DogSlySmile


    Pre-reg for the Lavaredo Trail 120k opened yesterday and only stays open for 10 days if anyone is interested. Looks like a fantastic route. Has anyone done it before?

    I've put my name down for pre-reg but the date of the race may not suit. I'll make a decision if I get through the pre-reg.

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    Link if vid doesnt work


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭DogSlySmile


    AON confirmed jan 16th!!!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭DogSlySmile


    Ultra running seminar coming to Dublin Nov 22nd

    Details here - https://coachgeorge.leadpages.net/dublinultra/

    Seems interesting, with guest speakers Gerry Duffy, John O Regan, Ray O'conner and Ruthann Sheehan (iirc Ruthann used to be a regular boards poster).

    I'm turned off by the fact that it's run by George "buy my book/DVDs/diet/everything" Anderson and at €64 it's fairly pricey. But thought I'd throw it up here anyway as there might be some interest.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    I'd be interested but not at €64 I'm afraid. Bit steep for me!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭DogSlySmile


    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/asics-outrun-the-sun/on-demand/60457-001

    Outrun the Sun - teams attempt to run 150k around Mont Blanc in 15hrs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1


    Preview of the contenders for this weeks100 km wrd champshttp://www.irunfar.com/2014/11/2014-iau-100k-world-championships-mens-preview.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭Enduro


    Great previews. Some very interesting runners in both races. It'll defeinitely be interesting to see how Steve Way does in the mens's race. His little excursions into the marathon might have him running even faster... we shall see.

    Best of luck to our own athletes at this one. Great to see the Irish record holder Keith Whyte back out representing Ireland again. Some recovery from what looked like a potential career ending injury.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    Some interviews with competitors in the 100k WC's.
    http://www.irunfar.com/category/races


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    Coverage of the 100k World championships: http://www.irunfar.com/2014/11/2014-iau-100k-world-championships-live-coverage.html

    Starts at 3pm if I'm not mistaken.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    There's supposed to be camera feed as well:
    http://www.lifeinaspire.qa/ArticleDetail.aspx?lang=en&id=80#.VG3I9meD9nw

    Didn't always work for the 50k world trophy but well worth checking out at the time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    GB have a really strong team in for this. Steve Way and Paul martaletti. Paul came 4th in the 50k a few weeks ago and also ran 2:18 in the yorkshire marathon. Both were training runs for this race.

    I saw on FB that the defending champion Giorgio Calcaterra is not overly optimistic about his prospects as he says there are several people who have run faster this year than his lifetime 100k PB.

    Temperatures are not looking as bad in Doha as they were for the 50k, low to mid 20's dropping to about 18-19 overnight.


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