flutered wrote: » if below cost selling was baned here, it would increase the reveenue collected by more than the lpt and water charges togeather.
davo10 wrote: » Why go in to the pub if you are going to drink from a bottle you brought in? Why not just drink it outside?
The other fella wrote: » Im well aware of what Tescos is. You and your friends going to see bands or get drunk in tescos or whatever your on about takes nothing away from the fact that publicans charge an arm and a leg for drink and moan when people get a cheaper option from a supermarket.
lertsnim wrote: » Scummy is bottling someone. Not sneaking drink into a pub.
davo10 wrote: » Don't go in then.
Spirogyra wrote: » I suppose I'm a small bit annoyed because I feel it must be personal, it's hardly to do with the wine , after 8 years.....but if I challenged them , they can just throw the wine excuse at me, yes I was buying wine on the night as well, and even offered to pay corkage when caught, they wanted me gone, for some reason felt I didn't fit in, in some way, but as I did wrong, I've no redress....
The other fella wrote: » I will....And i'll top up my glass while i'm at it.
davo10 wrote: » I don't know where you are from but where I'm from, bottling someone is way beyond scummy.
davo10 wrote: » Go ahead, but don't whinge if you get caught and banned. Also, don't be surprised if some of your friends are embarrassed by what you are doing, my friends would be if I was.
Duracell Bunny wrote: » Course they can. Feckin cheapskate. I remember being a glass collector in a pub when I was 18. Captain of the local rugby team was standing on the bar, the manager told me to tell him to get down. He never even let go of his pint, he just bellyflopped towards me. I never sidestepped so quickly in my life and watched in amusement as he crashed through a table. Even he only got barred for 1 weekend. Moral of the story: they musnt like ya.
The other fella wrote: » Now that bit in bold is just brilliant haha. Not only would i not be banned but me,my friends, the barstaff and everyone else who doesnt have something firm and rigid planted in their anus would have a good laugh about it.
The other fella wrote: » Yup, if you ask for a vodka in a Spanish pub you usually get a tall tumbler glass almost full for about €2.50. Here you get a bare shot of it for about €7 and you still have publicans moaning whenever the likes of tescos make a half decent offer on drink...
theoneeyedman wrote: » Mmmm not so sure about that. A private business but it has a public house licence I assume. A publican for instance cannot refuse service to travellers, foreigners, coloured people etc.
biko wrote: » A friend of mine got barred from Neachtain's in Galway 10 years ago or so. I was in there with him a couple years back and we were asked to leave after finishing our pints as he was still barred. So yeah, other pubs hold a grudge for 8 years too. It's mindblowing really.
davo10 wrote: » The usual response when someone has an alternative opinion, I was actually wondering who would post this question, you were my second favourite. No Frank, I'm not, I suppose it would be easier for you if I was but sorry, you'll just have to use your wits in this discussion.
discus wrote: » If you can get one over a pub, then do it. Pack of shysters.
AngeGal wrote: » Lol at the ridiculous nonsense being posted in this thread. Worked in three different pubs for years when I was younger, never saw anything being poured into a Smirnoff bottle or any bottle for that mater, sons have worked in different pubs throughout college and never saw it either. People have this simplified notion that because pubs charge 4 quid a vodka or whatever they're cleaning up. They don't for a moment consider Sky/BT (last time I talked to owner of local these were costing something like 1300 per month, probably more now) Rates, depending on your location possibly another 1500 a month or more, Public Liability Insurance, Electricity (2K per month for medium sized bar), staff, etc.If the shysters are making such money, why come so so many are shutting down? 1500 over the last few years?http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/economic-crisis-leads-to-mass-closing-of-irish-pubs-a-914375.html
darkpagandeath wrote: » Because as a nation we are not drinking as much, But don't let that stop you saying it's because they are not making enough money. They are making money hand over fist. The ones that have gone down the pan you will find are the ones that are next to 3 other pubs like in the country or in Dublin were there is to much competition and only x number of clientele. it's simple numbers. the numbers we had before were way over what was needed.
AngeGal wrote: » What are you basing this on? Have you any actual evidence/numbers/stats that reflect this or is it just your deeply held belief that you won't be changing?
darkpagandeath wrote: » Well i have read about the 33% drop off in consumption over the past number of years due to collapse of the Celtic tiger. And are you trying to tell people the number of pubs kicking around previously was sustainable ? Like any other industry if you cant get customers you go out of business no matter what you charge. If pubs in Dublin are charging close to €10 for vodka and rebull and that's normal it's not what they are charging that's putting them out of business. it’s lack of customers, people are spending less, less customers means to many pubs and the ones that are not being used close.
AngeGal wrote: » You seem to have moved a little back from your claim that pubs are making money 'hand over fist'. All I can tell you is I have family working in different bars in Galway City, all of which would be considered busy bars, they often tell me about mondays/tuesdays/wednesdays where the pub only takes in 400/500 euro, sure that wouldn't cover the staff for the day, let alone other costs. Thursdays and Sundays tend to be better but not 'busy' and Fridays and Saturdays are usually very busy obviously. I outlined some of the costs in my last post and I am sure if you googled you could get a more accurate breakdown than that so the notion that pubs are making money 'hand over fist' is entirely untrue with maybe the very odd exception being somewhere like the quays in galway that has a good crowd every night basically. Maybe it was true twenty years up to the end of the Celtic Tiger but definitely no longer the case. I wouldn't call it scummy to sneak drink in if it was an immature student (i'm sure some of my own did it!) but anyone beyond the age of 21 really shouldnt be at it. I think pretty much all pubs will need to adapt to survive these times whether it's through starting to do food or coming up with innovative ways to increase revenue. It's not just less disposable income, people are living a healthier lifestyle these days (which is great) than my generation where people would go for pints three or fours night a week in many cases. Anyway I'm off to do my bit to keep the local alive so have a good night.
darkpagandeath wrote: » Talking about the Capital.
AngeGal wrote: » Fair enough but I'd say if you went into most bars in Dublin with the exception of those in temple bar or where ever from Sun-Thursday, it would be easy enough to count how many is in there.
Frank Lee Midere wrote: » Lol. You spent time "wondering" who would ask you were you representing publicans. Did you write a list? Add to that list every time a new poster arrived? Move names up and down. How utterly odd. In fact I said nothing critical about publicans. You seem overly defensive about them though.
