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Warm/Tropical Weather is not Good Weather Part 2

764dak

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057258463

Okay, so the original thread was closed because I didn't offer a summary and an opinion on the matter. So here goes...

Summary:
1. The reason why tropical countries aren't developed are because of agriculture and the control of diseases. In the pre-industrial era, tropical countries were at a disadvantage in agriculture. Tropical countries have more biodiversity which means they would suffer from more pests and diseases. Pests and diseases are also harder to control in the tropics than in temperate areas. Tropics have less fertile soil compared to temperate regions. Industrialisation was reached later and tropical countries lag behind even more than before.
2. Brains don't function as well in warm/tropical weather.

Opinion:
As someone who lives in a tropical country I can definitely say that sometimes it is hard to think properly in warm weather.

So stop complaining about Ireland's "bad" weather.

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Sir Arthur Daley

Can you summarise it under 160 words op?

Hotfail.com

Bad weather is good weather.

Hate that bloody sun.

764dak

Sir Arthur Daley wrote: »

Can you summarise it under 160 words op?

The whole post was actually 145 words (144 without the link to the other thread).

Sir Arthur Daley

764dak wrote: »

The whole post was actually 145 words (144 without the link to the other thread).

The link like has loads of words, the computer says no :pac:

_Redzer_

You're being silly, OP.

Silly and fat

OneEightSeven

I was watching a video about Scottish Independence and it stated that Northern European countries are the wealthiest in the world.

I would prefer Sweden's or Germany's climate over ours. They're rich countries but they're not bashed by wind and rain as much as we are. Better summers, too.

Sunnyisland

Go on my son...

kneemos

Soil types and water supply might play a role also.

kneemos

Soil types and water supply might play a role also.

knird evol

'guns, germs and steel' by Jared Diamond link is a good book on why civilisation developed ahead in eurasia.

In modern times unstable and corrupt political regimes is the main reason for low economic growth in undeveloped regions.

WesternZulu

OneEightSeven wrote: »

II would prefer Sweden's or Germany's climate over ours. They're rich countries but they're not bashed by wind and rain as much as we are. Better summers, too.

You'd seriously prefer the climate in Sweden?

There average summer temperate is more or less the same as ours.
While they might not get bashed with wind and rain in the winter like us, they get bashed in snow and ice instead.

I know what I'd rather!

Hande hoche!

knird evol wrote: »

'guns, germs and steel' by Jared Diamond link is a good book on why civilisation developed ahead in eurasia.

In modern times unstable and corrupt political regimes is the main reason for low economic growth in undeveloped regions.

That was a nice read, interesting theory on the role of geography. Although the author really seems to dislike Whitey.

OneEightSeven

WesternZulu wrote: »

You'd seriously prefer the climate in Sweden?

There average summer temperate is more or less the same as ours.
While they might not get bashed with wind and rain in the winter like us, they get bashed in snow and ice instead.

I know what I'd rather!

It reaches 30*C there more often in southern Sweden than it does here and snow is far superior to rain and the usual shíte were subjected to here. Their climate is dryer and sunnier, too.

I would choose Germany over all three because you would get a better sun tan the further south you are and it dryer than Sweden.

Wibbs

764dak wrote: »

Summary:
1. The reason why tropical countries aren't developed are because of agriculture and the control of diseases. In the pre-industrial era, tropical countries were at a disadvantage in agriculture. Tropical countries have more biodiversity which means they would suffer from more pests and diseases. Pests and diseases are also harder to control in the tropics than in temperate areas. Tropics have less fertile soil compared to temperate regions. Industrialisation was reached later and tropical countries lag behind even more than before.

Yet many a civilisation arose in the tropics. The various central American cultures like the Inca and Aztecs for a start. Never mind India, Angkor wat etc.

2. Brains don't function as well in warm/tropical weather.

Really? Modern humans pretty much evolved in such an environment. One reason why our basic bodyshape is tall and skinny when compared to earlier humans. Mesopotamia, Egypt, Greece were/are all "hot" countries. Not exactly slacking in the oul civilisation dept.

Hande hoche! wrote: »

That was a nice read, interesting theory on the role of geography. Although the author really seems to dislike Whitey.

Great book, but yep there was an element of post colonial white guilt to it alright. When discussions about why one population rose and another didn't come up, the real elephants in the room are culture and biology. Both have their own pressures good and bad. It's not so much about "race", more about external and internal pressures on a given population. You can see this over time within the same population. Take the aforementioned Greece. They essentially created the modern world or had a huge hand in it. Giants of humanity. Today? Just another European culture and a pretty buggered one at that. Look at Iraq. Pretty much one of the earliest great civilizations on earth, yet have been in the doldrums for a couple of thousand years. A good example IMH of external pressures and culture changing outcomes would be the Jews. A couple of thousand years ago they were a philosophical and intellectual backwater. The Greeks made them look like chimps. Today they're about the most over achieving population on the planet. Nobel prizes in the sciences read like a bar mitzvah invitation list. Same "race" different outcomes.

cloud493

Its significantly cooled down in the past week or so with the return of the rain. So I'm pretty ok :pac: