budsalt wrote: » Besides all the kneecapping,kidnaps,executions and other punishments dished to the RC people in N/Ireland we also have Omagh and Enniskillen as well. It would do the protesters well to remember the atrocities carried out by republicans on the people of N/Ireland.
AudreyHepburn wrote: » I'm not saying it's easy for anyone to move on. I'm just saying I hope and pray they'll find a way eventually because dwelling on the past and allowing to poison the present will not help anyone. And I say again, pretending the Irish were completely innocent in all this is madness.
Mosby61 wrote: » It is the biggest Republican myth. Most of Ulster was never in a Irish Republic.
pojfexcsc wrote: » How is that a Republican myth?? the whole point of Republicanism back as far as when Mick signed the treaty was to eventually lay claim to the whole Island. A united Ireland wouldnt be the Republic with the other counties tacked on it would be a brand new Republic.
VinLieger wrote: » My god the armchair republicanism of "dem brits did dis and dat to us" popping up in this thread is as hilarious as it is depressing
any1butdublin3 wrote: » Living in Anglo Dublin it is easy to see why you would think that, elsewhere us culchies who have been the victims of British thugery since medieval times have different opinions.
VinLieger wrote: » The post I was quoting mentioned "returning the north back under irish rule" however the north was never under the rule of an independant united ireland government so it technically cant be returned....
VinLieger wrote: » Northern Ireland was never under Irish rule so how can it be returned back under Irish rule? Also you are saying you will fight in mine and others names even though we don't want you to?
hatrickpatrick wrote: » In other words, at a distance where their objections can be ignored and go unacknowledged. Fair enough. I haven't, though.
end of the road wrote: » anyone in the BA who murdered civilians in NI and who are still alive should be constantly reminded of what they did, future generations should know also your "move on" crap is simpleton nonsense and the typical sweep it under the carpet and pretend it never happened nonsense that is rife in irish society
VinLieger wrote: » LOL chip on shoulder much? Its cute you think you can identify and actually try to trace your family back to medieval times as if you have owned the same patch of land you currently inhabit since the 1200's
any1butdublin3 wrote: » Maybe you think that Irish people speaking the ancient language that their ancestors spoke is also "cute"?
snaphook wrote: » Were any of them wearing the new Man U jersey?
any1butdublin3 wrote: » I have to laugh at that argument, what about all those British that follow the NFL and even go to the games in Wembley, do you think they would like England to be a part of the USA? politics has no room in sport
Happyman42 wrote: » And please don't try and say you meant something else, it was clear from your 'it would shut them up' comment that you had no idea of the relationship between SF and RSF/EIrigi etc. It isn't SF's fault if southern Irish 'citizens' are confused...educate yourself before commenting.
Happyman42 wrote: » Isn't that all that these protesters where doing, making it clear what they believe in?
VinLieger wrote: » Not sure what that has to do with anything
VinLieger wrote: » No its the fact that people who actively hate and despise England and its people manage to not see the ridiculousness in the fact that they then worship a sport it created and its teams above our own national sport and teams
any1butdublin3 wrote: » You think it is cute that someone whos ancestors have been viewed as inferior people by the English for 500+ years (up until recent years) feels like they have a right to not push things under the carpet and act like us and the english are top buddies
pojfexcsc wrote: » It comments like that which shows why Nationalists in the North feel abandoned by a section of their countrymen.
[CCO'B] wished to "cleanse the culture" of republicanism and would like the bill to be used against teachers who allegedly glorified Irish revolutionaries. He also wanted it used against newspaper editors who published pro-republican or anti-British readers' letters. O'Brien stat[ed] that the "killing strain" of Irish republicanism, "has a very high propensity to run in families and the mother is most often the carrier". a successful libel action was brought against CCO'B by relatives of Bloody Sunday victims for alleging in a Sunday Independent article in 1997 that the marchers were "Sinn Féin activists operating for the IRA" O'Brien opposed the 1998 Good Friday Agreement Wiki
Jesus. wrote: » Then what are you saying? Its either one or the other!
P_1 wrote: » But why should I let what somebody's great-great-great-great-great grandfather did to my great-great-great-great-great grandfather affect my relationship with that person? Have you ever heard of the saying 'you can choose your friends but you can't choose your family'? They can't do anything about what happened, nor can I
Donkey Oaty wrote: » Can we rename this thread "Ireland & Britain: the same old tired crap we've heard again and again"?
VinLieger wrote: » Yes I do, my ancestors are your ancestors, but Ive gotten over it, maybe find something else to dedicate your life to and try not to hate so much?
end of the road wrote: » when the last bit of BA vermin who murdered a civilian in northern ireland is dead and northern ireland is returned back under irish rule then we can all move on, until then i and many others will keep speaking the truth and the people will listen whether they want to or not, and whether they like it or not
Jesus. wrote: » Bloody idiot. Telling me I don't know the difference between Sinn Fein and Republican Sinn Fein? And Eirigi FFS?!!! Look pal, I've forgotten more about the northern troubles, the dissidents and indeed Irish history as a whole than you'll ever know. I can guarantee you that. The "that would shut them up" comment was clearly aimed at the people blaming SF for this protest. They can keep on going smearing SF to their heart's content but if SF came out and denounced the nature of this protest and highlighted the nature of RFS and those other groups a bit more often, they'd gain more respect from the average southern citizen and it would also have the effect of neutralising the effect of the virulent anti-Sinn Feiners.
Shouting and roaring at a remembrance service for Irish people killed in a war that had noting to do with the northern troubles etc? I think its you who needs educating pal. Fukking Disso
