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Dash cam saves your ass (no Roundabout stuff please :)

Mycroft H

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRC7RO2tOJQ

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highdef

BMJD wrote: »

helping traffic flow more freely, a few extra cars get through the green light ahead, good move

Unless I am colour blind, the light ahead is red when all the overtaking took place. It also looks like nothing is really gained when the lights turn green as the left lane almost always moves faster due to a lack of crossing traffic as is the case in the right turning lane.
However I do see what looks like a filter arrow for cars turning right but unless this is illuminated at the beginning of the green sequence, then the overtaking is of no benefit unless you have a penchant for crashing into cars who are turning right out of the minor road at the T-junction just before the traffic lights and would not be expecting cars to be travelling the wrong way on the wrong side of the road.

On that subject, if a car had been coming out of that T-junction, was turning right and was then hit by a car driving on the wrong side of the road as shown in the video, would it be the car on the wrong side who would get the blame or would there be a split?

celticbest

Spook_ie wrote: »

Question...

You approach a T Junction, the road you wish to turn right onto has a solid white line in the center, can you legaly turn right across the solid white line?

An example such as the white lines on Pinnock Hill in Swords if you were exiting the B&B
https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.441184,-6.227738,3a,75y,112.12h,62.03t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sFINnf_dWhrmD-BZgXOxbAw!2e0?hl=en

No you are not allowed to cross the solid white line, you are supposed to go down to the coachmans r/a & do you u-turn via it.

celticbest

The Dagda wrote: »

His post is "LUCKY I CHECKED MY MIRROR". If he had checked his mirror FIRST there would've been no issue and no pointless video.

why would this have stopped the Golf overtaking me and the other cars behind me?

celticbest

vectra wrote: »

You crossed a continuous white line, END OF.!

But I get your issue with it alright

They were driving a Focus and a Golf while you were driving a merc.

Did I mention the Focus once in this thread? the Golf is the only car I mentioned.

Have you got a problem with the car I drive? Or is there another purpose for you mentioning it?

IP freely

celticbest wrote: »

Mmmm, the person is walking towards the Naas Road & not towards me & why are they on the road when there is a Path a meter to there right?

As for the Solid white line & broken line there is nothing in the ROTR about the use of broken white line for the purpose you mention?

And do you think this would hold up in court lol?

Put down the shovel and stop digging, If you were traveling along a stretch of road doing 80kph behind a car in front but cannot overtake due to a continuous white line. If there is an opening in the solid line and a 2 meter section on broken line to accommodate an entrance. do you feel it is ok to start your overtake in sight of those broken lines and merge back in after the end of the broken lines ???

Or another example broken white lines at the end of a turn right lane to allow traffic to cross would you use those to overtake as well? Going by your understanding / what you've said on here you would use them.

And your second post re not lines in a box your right. In the video you posted there were no broken line in the box they ran adjacent to it. (edit; sorry they are in the box seems the box is an afterthought.)

Regardless of what other people are doing in your surroundings (as in the other cars the people walking) you still have to drive appropriately.

bear1

Lads for Gods sake, less chatting about bollix and more vids!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1pZIcbgHGs

josip

Thanks Celtic Beast for posting and I can understand your reason for posting both vids.

At many places on the road network there are patterns of usage that have evolved in order to make best use of that infrastructure, notwithstanding the signage and markings.

Viewers who are not familiar with those locations cannot apply any local knowledge and can only apply a black and white rules of the road perpective. Becasue of the black and white nature of their perspective they can become quite entrenched in their viewpoint.

I think that if some of them came upon a tractor travelling at 10kph on a country road with a solid white line in the middle, they would remain behind it for 10km if need be, until the line became broken. Most I hope would be able to apply situational intelligence and do what is appropriate and safe, even if it did break a rule of the road.

Thanks again for posting and please keep the vids coming.

rocky

IP freely wrote: »

And do you think this would hold up in court lol?

Put down the shovel and stop digging, If you were traveling along a stretch of road doing 80kph behind a car in front but cannot overtake due to a continuous white line. If there is an opening in the solid line and a 2 meter section on broken line to accommodate an entrance. do you feel it is ok to start your overtake in sight of those broken lines and merge back in after the end of the broken lines ???

He'd have to wait on the wrong side of the road until another entrance has a broken white line to get back to his lane

celticbest

IP freely wrote: »

And do you think this would hold up in court lol?

Sorry for driving within 30m of a Pedestrian Judge?

IP freely wrote: »

Put down the shovel and stop digging, If you were traveling along a stretch of road doing 80kph behind a car in front but cannot overtake due to a continuous white line. If there is an opening in the solid line and a 2 meter section on broken line to accommodate an entrance. do you feel it is ok to start your overtake in sight of those broken lines and merge back in after the end of the broken lines ???

The scenario we're talking about has no relevance to this.... two completely different situations.

IP freely wrote: »

Or another example broken white lines at the end of a turn right lane to allow traffic to cross would you use those to overtake as well? Going by your understanding / what you've said on here you would use them.

for you, that's just stupid.

IP freely wrote: »

And your second post re not lines in a box your right. In the video you posted there were no broken line in the box they ran adjacent to it. (edit; sorry they are in the box seems the box is an afterthought.)

Agree, before the yellow Box was painted the white lines should have been burnt to stop any ambiguity, but there, there and there is.

IP freely wrote: »

Regardless of what other people are doing in your surroundings (as in the other cars the people walking) you still have to drive appropriately.

All I'm hearing now is blah, blah, blah, blah!!!

Side note - I think I'm going to really enjoy this Thread.

vectra

celticbest wrote: »

No you are now allowed to cross the solid white line, you are supposed to go down to the coachmans r/a & do you u-turn via it.

Since when is it now legal to cross a continuous white line?
That is news to me as is a U-turn being legal

When I did all of my driving tests both those would be an instant fail.

celticbest wrote: »

Did I mention the Focus once in this thread? the Golf is the only car I mentioned.

Have you got a problem with the car I drive? Or is there another purpose for you mentioning it?

The Focus broke the Law
As did the Golf
As did you.

As for the Merc.
Why would I have a problem with that?

It just has come to my attention on more than a few occasions that Merc, BMW , Jag etc. drivers seem to think they have a certain right to the road more than drivers of regular cars.

But hey.
Maybe you don't fall into that category.

But at the end of the day.
Had the Golf crashed into you.
Who do you think would have been at fault?

BMJD

feck it, lock him up and throw away the key, he's worse than Israel

celticbest

vectra wrote: »

Since when is it now legal to cross a continuous white line?
That is news to me as is a U-turn being legal

When I did all of my driving tests both those would be an instant fail.

Thanks for pointing out my typo, from reading the whole sentence I'm sure it was an obvious one anyway, however it's now amended to ensure no else makes the same mistake.

Post # 4748
Was,

celticbest wrote: »

No you are now allowed to cross the solid white line, you are supposed to go down to the coachmans r/a & do you u-turn via it.

Now

celticbest wrote: »

No you are not allowed to cross the solid white line, you are supposed to go down to the coachmans r/a & do you u-turn via it.

vectra wrote: »

The Focus broke the Law
As did the Golf
As did you.

Mmmm, call the Guards, I put the video up only to show what could of happened if I had not been vigilant.

vectra wrote: »

As for the Merc.
Why would I have a problem with that?

It just has come to my attention on more than a few occasions that Merc, BMW , Jag etc. drivers seem to think they have a certain right to the road more than drivers of regular cars.

But hey.
Maybe you don't fall into that category.

I could say the same about certain makes or models but not all drivers of certain makes or models behave the same, I see people in all makes making some crazy moves & others in similar makes being very polite and courteous. I am wary of all as you never know what another driver is liable to do.

vectra wrote: »

But at the end of the day.
Had the Golf crashed into you.
Who do you think would have been at fault?

At the end of the day it didn't happen because I was observant enough to see it coming, if however it has hit me I'm not entirely sure who would have been at fault, have you any theories on it?

IP freely

celticbest wrote: »

Sorry for driving within 30m of a Pedestrian Judge?

I'm referring to you breaking a continuous white line. the pedestrian I pointed out may have caused an oncoming car to swerve drive out to the white line (something whitch you admitted too in an earlier post) something that may not have been possible considering you took it upon yourself to cross the white line into the other lane. However we will never know if this happened as some parts of the clip seem edited out.

celticbest wrote: »

The scenario we're talking about has no relevance to this.... two completely different situations.

Oh but I think it does, breaking a continuous white line is the same no matter where it is painted.

You seem to think that its ok given the fact that there was a small section of broken line.

celticbest wrote: »

for you, that's just stupid.

Borderline abusive that, not biting.

celticbest wrote: »

Agree, before the yellow Box was painted the white lines should have been burnt to stop any ambiguity, but there, there and there is.

:O we agree on something

celticbest wrote: »

All I'm hearing now is blah, blah, blah, blah!!!

And I'm out, you cannot debate something without resorting to childish behavior.

No matter what way you look at it you came one criticising one driver when what you done was equally as bad. Pot kettle.

dashcamdanny

That rigid driver is a pr1ck . . plain and simple.

Using his mass to bully.

Bad form. And i'm sure it will be his undoing at some stage.

As for this!!

Hunter Mahan wrote: »

Nothing very dramatic, skip to about 1.20... white line? what white line?

I'm stumped why you are all going after celticbeast for nothing really, and ignored this vid where a complete knob end of a learner could have killed people with his novice driving in the vid above!!

finnharpsboy

dashcamdanny wrote: »

That rigid driver is a pr1ck . . plain and simple.

Using his mass to bully.

Bad form. And i'm sure it will be his undoing at some stage.

As for this!!

I'm stumped why you are all going after celticbeast for nothing really, and ignored this vid where a complete knob end of a learner could have killed people with his novice driving in the vid above!!

07 LH 4001?

vectra

celticbest wrote: »

Mmmm, call the Guards, I put the video up only to show what could of happened if I had not been vigilant.

Vigilant??

As in you were careful when you broke the law?

celticbest wrote: »

At the end of the day it didn't happen because I was observant enough to see it coming, if however it has hit me I'm not entirely sure who would have been at fault, have you any theories on it?

Observant??

You were so unobservant you failed to notice you were about to cross a continuous white line
which you continued to do event after the Golf missed you.

And my theory on if there had been an accident?
You both would have been charged and rightly so.

celticbest

vectra wrote: »

Vigilant??

As in you were careful when you broke the law?

Observant??

You were so unobservant you failed to notice you were about to cross a continuous white line
which you continued to do event after the Golf missed you.

And my theory on if there had been an accident?
You both would have been charged and rightly so.

:eek: I noticed there was a continous white line, I not blind.... I took the decision to cross it as I was entering a section of broken white line which would allow me to paas the vehicle in front of me, in turn this would move traffic on behind me on this very busy section of road allowing for a greater flow of traffic to get through the lights when they went green again.

As for your theory, I'd love you to be my opposition lawyer if it ever went to court.

ADD ON:

vectra wrote: »

The part i find funny on celticbest's video is where it was pointed out that the bmw driver never indicated when changing lanes.

Rarely do I see people indicating when doing this.
Why would you expect him to?

As for the roundabouts.
Meh.
happens at every roundabout.

The part I find funny about all your posts is above post.

1. 'Why would you expect him to?' use indicators - because it's a legal requirement.

2. 'Meh. happens at every roundabout', in relation to lane crossing., this is just pure entertainment

:D:D

So in conclusion I would take anything you have to say in relation to the ROTR with a pinch of salt.

rizzodun

Unfollowing for a while until the bickering stops, can someone message me when this thread returns to proper videos and discussion?

Alanstrainor

rizzodun wrote: »

Unfollowing for a while until the bickering stops, can someone message me when this thread returns to proper videos and discussion?

Good call. More vids please. Let's stop this discussion here for the sake of the thread.

huggs2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQbjADTN_28

rotun

http://thejuggalonation.com/video-old-man-deliberately-hit-by-short-fused-driver-in-bmw/

wonski

rotun wrote: »

http://thejuggalonation.com/video-old-man-deliberately-hit-by-short-fused-driver-in-bmw/

There are "people" out there who don't deserve to be among us.

He is one of them. It just shows that you never know who the drivers around you are.

I remember one case where a well known ex rally driver killed an innocent driver with a knife for cutting him out on the junction (or something as "minor" as this). It wasn't in Ireland btw.

Cerco

rotun wrote: »

http://thejuggalonation.com/video-old-man-deliberately-hit-by-short-fused-driver-in-bmw/

This looks staged to me. Watch the cyclist go straight to the car and remove the pillow. How did she know it was there?

wonski

Cerco wrote: »

This looks staged to me. Watch the cyclist go straight to the car and remove the pillow. How did she know it was there?

Maybe he ( the victim) asked her to bring it. He was conscious.

Looks real to me.

Jebus Diced

Love these dash cam videos but that last one was a bit graphic, hope he was ok.

yop

gutteruu wrote: »

Then go onto youtube and type in dashcam. This is a discussion forum after all. Bit of chat is no harm IMO (although the line thing has gone on for a few pages alright). Nobody is legally bound to read every comment. Just skip through until you see a video.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=91525647&postcount=4758

bear1

Twice a Mod has said to get back to videos and yet we are discussing again.
It's coming to a point where this thread has become boring/tedious and predictable.
Here's 15mins of dashcam footage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-BY-gOqAP4

Enjoy everyone (at least to those who just want to see said videos)

Alanstrainor

Lots of posts deleted to clean things up.

This is becoming more than a bit difficult to moderate at this stage.

The focus should be on posting videos, but the endless nit picking on users driving is just tedious and boring.

More videos please, less chit chat.

bear1

Here's another dashcam video for you all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRXclVUxkpk

CatFromHue

rotun wrote: »

http://thejuggalonation.com/video-old-man-deliberately-hit-by-short-fused-driver-in-bmw/

What's the erratic driving here that causes the guy to get out of his car?

It doesn't look like he was rear ended or anything.