pmy.murphy wrote: » Id imagine the snooker hall is also gone, it was part of the pub albeit a separate place at the back. A real pity as I was one of their best customers, absolutely loved playing in there and was in there only last thursday. Looks like we all have nowhere to play snooker now
Cake Man wrote: » Ah that's a disaster, used to go down once or twice a week myself when I was living at home. There was a good few regulars that played snooker there for years, where are they all going to go now? Is there another snooker hall in the town, Sullys maybe? Wonder what they'll do with all the tables aswell, maybe try flog them in an asset stripping exercise?
pmy.murphy wrote: » Sullys is still there too down on O Connell Street, that place used to be big many years ago. ive often been in there since they moved down to O Connell Street from beside Alfie Hales but theyve only got the one full sized snooker table and its not the best, its mostly games machines in Sullys with a few pool tables up the back and the one big table which isnt the best, the cloth is fairly worn on it. I actually played in both in the one day about a month ago and I noticed the difference in the quality of the tables straight away. The tables in the Showboat are much better. Id be a regular in the Showboat Snooker Hall myself, a fantastic spot, best place in the town for me nothing like a few games of snooker and a few pints and as you said there its the only decent place for snooker. Where are all the regulars going to go now is right? Many avid snooker players in the city, I live on the other side of the bridge myself but Im certainly a regular myself as I play snooker and pool competitively too. I dont know where Im going to go now thats for sure. Sullys certainly isnt the best for more reasons than one Id imagine if the banks sell off all the tables that the pub wont go to the trouble of buying more tables should it re-open again. Its a huge loss to the town though, the importance of the Showboat as a social spot especially the snooker side as its the only real place in town to play is so underrated. I for one will miss it hugely, I nearly always head in for a game any time im in town. I certainly hope the banks dont flog the tables anyway, ruins any chance of it re-opening again I think
There is a full sized snooker table in downes, just around the corner from the showboat.
TheQuietFella wrote: » T'sure I only thought it was a typo' error. No one died!
cococoady wrote: » Is the snooker hall still going in the bridge hotel, in where Crokers bar used to be?
Wanderer2010 wrote: » Where is our junior minister Paudie Coffey in the midst of all this? He should be out there publicly backing any action that will save these jobs, he surely knows Waterford cannot afford to lose a single job, never mind 3 pubs worth of staff. His silence here is deafening...sign of things to come? This is prime opportunity to come out and make a statement backing the workers who are sitting in and imploring the management to come to a decision that would halt or at least minimize the damage. If Eisthec announced another 100 jobs, himself and Conway would be grinning right in the middle of the photograph :rolleyes:
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Sully wrote: » What exactly can he do? It's not the job of politicians to get into the thick of a private businesses failings, unless there is a clear cross over and the state can do something. When you see Sinn Fein and other opposition groups do it it's only because they are buying into a potential vote pool by making people believe politicians have power here. But 99% of the time they don't. They can't meddle into the affairs of Banks, Revenue and other small businesses who are owed money and who behind closed doors I am sure have done everything they can to give businesses more time to get back on their feet. But at the end of the day, there is a cut off point. TDs might make representations but this is done behind closed doors. Between the businesses, the TDs and the public body. Just because you don't hear about it, doesn't mean they haven't tired. No TD wants mass unemployment.
Wanderer2010 wrote: » Im not going to launch into an ill-informed rant about how you are whats wrong with this city and voters like yourself give rise to useless and incompetent politicians who can peddle a few false promises and they get to sit pretty for another 2 years. I will, however, pick you up on a few of your points. 1. The family who own these business are NOT broke, they are not struggling and they are nowhere near even needing to go bankrupt. I know this as a stone cold fact. If i tell you how in know thus I would be up for libel. But the fact remains that its greed and not hard times that led to these closures. People's livelihoods being amongst this decision is of no consequence to these people. 2. I know full well its not a TDs job to join in sit ins or tell businesses how to operate. That isnt my point. The simple fact is that when we elect politicians into out city they are supposed to represent the fears, concerns and hopes of their constituents. What other reason would we elect them? Waterford has suffered massively with job losses, training funds being slashed, we have a bad reputation (this goes back to the striking dock workers in the 1960s, an act which unfortunately tarred all recent workplace disputes with the same brush), we are not even recognised by certain tourist board and its been fair game to dump all over us because we dont have anyone to represent us in the Dail. We finally have a junior minister but he has very little power still, essentially anything Enda Kenny says, Paudie has to say yes sir, and judging by his recent actions (signing off a petition to privatize bus services) its an ominous sign of things to come. He wants the wage packet, the perks, the expenses, the rubbing shoulders in a certain hotel with local bigwigs and fellow FG heads. But he wont get in there and support local real workers who are struggling to keep a roof over their heads and feed their family. He wont because he doesnt want to rock the boat as he may have to face the very people behind this decision later down the road. Its all scratch my back ill scratch yours. Thats how the world works. I supported the sit in at the Park Inn, a cause for which the workers had to fight a long time to get their redundancies. And the ONLY public faces who sat behind them were Independents, not the faceless FF or FG puppets who only care about their own nest. I really wish the workers of The Showboat well, because Christ only knows they wont get any official support. Anyone who can vote in a party which stands behind water and college fees, slashes to disabled services etc etc is as much part of the problem as the people who make these barbaric decisions.
Wanderer2010 wrote: » No offense Sully but you are clearly and wholeheartedly a 100% FG man, and therefore I cannot take any of your points seriously. If you are a FG man, you are by extension a supporter of what they do, the laws they pass, the cuts they make and their corrupt ethos. If you are not part of the solution....
Wanderer2010 wrote: » You see, Sully, anything FG related, including Paudie Coffey, will never ever be criticized by you because you are a fan of FG and hence Coffey. I personally cant name one good thing the man has done for this city, he is very much a carbon copy of any junior minister who follows their leader and never rocks the boat. He knows as well as anyone in Waterford with an ounce of common sense if he goes against Kenny hes out on his ear. I think you hit the nail on the head with your point "he will continue on government policy". So thats water charges, cuts to disabled services and job losses all the way then?
danjo-xx wrote: » Hows that pub up from the Showboat doin, always seems to be empty, the long stand or something
Wanderer2010 wrote: » 1. The family who own these business are NOT broke, they are not struggling and they are nowhere near even needing to go bankrupt. I know this as a stone cold fact. If i tell you how in know thus I would be up for libel. But the fact remains that its greed and not hard times that led to these closures. People's livelihoods being amongst this decision is of no consequence to these people.
ec18 wrote: » The family might not be near bankruptcy but the businesses might be. They weren't closed for no reason. Unless there's actual proof you can provide that it's the boogeyman bankers greed that's the reason they were closed, you're just someone looking for a rant/argument
