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biccies

Looking for opinions on a start up business taking someone on through job bridge, does it look bad? Its an IT business with one full time employee , can you give me your opinions please, thanks!!

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Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

Yeah. You're worse than Hitler and you sicken my hole.

Buzz Killington the third

Job Bridge is exploitation at its finest!

darkpagandeath

Don't you need 10 people working in the business to employ 1 jobbridge person.

biccies

Great, thanks, I guess I may forget about it then so!!

elefant

biccies wrote: »

Looking for opinions on a start up business taking someone on through job bridge, does it look bad? Its an IT business with one full time employee , can you give me your opinions please, thanks!!

If it's a genuinely useful experience for the intern, maybe with job prospects afterwards, I can't think there could be any perceived problem with it.

If it's an internship to stack shelves and dig holes that's another story.

biccies

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Don't you need 10 people to employ 1 jobbridge person.

No, you can only employ one if you have up to ten staff but you just need one full time member of staff

Deco99

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Don't you need 10 people working in the business to employ 1 jobbridge person.

Huh? Never heard

Awkward Badger

I'd be wondering how you'd be able to mentor and train someone in your one man start up.

biccies

elefant wrote: »

If it's a genuinely useful experience for the intern, maybe with job prospects afterwards, I can't think there could be any perceived any problem with it.

If it's an internship to stack shelves and dig holes that's another story.

Its 100% genuine, just as I said its a startup and trying to get moving on it and there would be a position available if the employee is good at the job

darkpagandeath

Awkward Badger wrote: »

I'd be wondering how you'd be able to mentor and train someone in your one man start up.

No one checks, As far as I know you report back to FAS and if your moaning you don't fill out the form. If you say anything positive you are used as a statistic to say your jobbridge was successful.

The Backwards Man

Do whatever you can do to make your business succesful. Don't listen to the proletariat, it's not their capital you're spending.

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

In all seriousness, it depends. If you're going to hire a recent graduate and it's a skilled role, job-bridge has it's uses, especially in a startup like yours.

If you're looking for somebody to clean your office and you hire them on a job-bridge placement, it's taking the pish and rightly frowned upon.

I couldn't look a fella in the eye of a friday if he'd done a weeks work for me and I hadn't paid him.

darkpagandeath

biccies wrote: »

Its 100% genuine, just as I said its a startup and trying to get moving on it and there would be a position available if the employee is good at the job

Is that not what you use Interviews for ? To check if the person is suitable and qualified ? Seems JB now is a 9 month interview, and at the end you get to interview someone else.

biccies

Awkward Badger wrote: »

I'd be wondering how you'd be able to mentor and train someone in your one man start up.

Don't you worry about that, I'd be looking for someone that is intuitive, enthusiastic about learning, able to work on own initiative etc. Its not for everyone .....

ScumLord

biccies wrote: »

Its 100% genuine, just as I said its a startup and trying to get moving on it and there would be a position available if the employee is good at the job

Well that's how jobbridge is supposed to work and there's nothing wrong with what you want to do. While there is a proportion of companies taking advantage if companies were doing what you're doing then it's a win, win for both parties.

B.A._Baracus

biccies wrote: »

Don't you worry about that, I'd be looking for someone that is intuitive, enthusiastic about learning, able to work on own initiative etc. will work for free .... Its not for everyone .....

I agree, it's not for everyone :pac:

SEPT 23 1989

The Pharisees of After Hours have spoken

biccies

ScumLord wrote: »

Well that's how jobbridge is supposed to work and there's nothing wrong with what you want to do. While there is a proportion of companies taking advantage if companies were doing what you're doing then it's a win, win for both parties.

Exactly what I'd be thinking, I'd just be worried about getting a bad name before really getting started. If anyone has any advice, perhaps has employed or been an employee though jobbridge if you could please private message me, thanks!!

miss no stars

It actually sounds pretty fair tbh, wasn't jobbridge supposed to be some sort of symbiosis where interns get experience and employers who are in a bit of a hole and can't afford an employee but need one can get the work and grow the business a bit, hopefully bringing in enough revenue to allow them to hire the person at the end of the 9 months?

Do it.

eviltwin

biccies wrote: »

Don't you worry about that, I'd be looking for someone that is intuitive, enthusiastic about learning, able to work on own initiative etc. Its not for everyone .....

The point of Jobsbridge is that the intern has someone who will mentor them, they are not meant to be hired and then left get on with it on their own.

miss no stars

eviltwin wrote: »

The point of Jobsbridge is that the intern has someone who will mentor them, they are not meant to be hired and then left get on with it on their own.

Ah now see an intern's level of supervision depends on their actual role and industry. Take my job (although I'm employed, not an intern). I'll be advertising for another person to have a very similar role to me. It's a graduate level position. You MUST be able to work on your own. Mentoring is there in that there's guidance whenever requested and plenty of help, but some people seem to think that mentoring means holding your hand all day long. It's not. It's someone looking in over your shoulder and making sure you're on the right track. Mentoring in many positions means making sure the person is getting experience at working independently and making decisions themselves while still having someone who's got their back.

biccies

eviltwin wrote: »

The point of Jobsbridge is that the intern has someone who will mentor them, they are not meant to be hired and then left get on with it on their own.

I'd never for one second think they'd b left on their own, the whole point is to train them up and have the best employees possible to male the business successful, I just wouldn't expect to take someone on that would need me looking over their shoulder all day

Awkward Badger

biccies wrote: »

Don't you worry about that, I'd be looking for someone that is intuitive, enthusiastic about learning, able to work on own initiative etc. Its not for everyone .....

You can look for the perfect employee all you like but what you're gonna get is an intern that you will have to train and mentor. Have you got the time and ability to do that given you've only got one full time employee ? If you can then I don't think it will look bad, it'll just be an intern getting experience in a start-up company that can't afford to hire a full time employee.

It will only look bad imo if you're clearly looking for someone to take up a full time position and the workload involved rather than an inexperienced intern. If it seems you get more than the intern.

eviltwin

biccies wrote: »

I'd never for one second think they'd b left on their own, the whole point is to train them up and have the best employees possible to male the business successful, I just wouldn't expect to take someone on that would need me looking over their shoulder all day

That's fair enough. If your intention is to genuinely help someone upskill then go for it. It's the employers who use it as free labour and couldn't give a feck about the person they hire who irk me.

biccies

Awkward Badger wrote: »

You can look for the perfect employee all you like but what you're gonna get is an intern that you will have to train and mentor. Have you got the time and ability to do that given you've only got one full time employee ? If you can then it won't look bad.

It will only look bad if you're clearly looking for someone to take up a full time position and the workload involved rather than an inexperienced intern.

I'm not looking for the perfect employee, I understand the terms etc and know how to treat people, so no problems there, just don't know any employer or employee who has gone through jobbridge and want to get as much info as possible

endacl

Awkward Badger wrote: »

I'd be wondering how you'd be able to mentor and train someone in your one man start up.

If it turns out to be a successful start up, I'd say it could be a great experience. Also, as a start up its unlikely the owner would be making a fortune for the first year or so, and there'd be little chance of having a resentful intern looking at the boss coining it in off their 'free labour'.

Job bridge could have been a great scheme. Unfortunately it was left to irish people to design and administer. Check out how those evil capitalist 'muricans do it...

http://www.yearup.org/

ammiem

Thats all on you and how you plan to treat the intern. Jobsbridge gets so much bad press and it seems 90% of the time its a complete sham. I did a human resource internship in a supermarket chain and ended up stacking shelves for 9 months

But when Jobsbridge works it works! If your willing to take on someone with little or no experience and spend time and money training them and keep the option open to hire them in 6/9 months then I think go for it!

Awkward Badger

biccies wrote: »

I'm not looking for the perfect employee, I understand the terms etc and know how to treat people, so no problems there, just don't know any employer or employee who has gone through jobbridge and want to get as much info as possible

Might be better off posting here then if you're looking for a business perspective on it rather than what people in general will think of it. I think jobsbridge has a bad name but with IT the experience is always going to be valuable so I don't think it will be looked down on.

biccies

Great guys, thanks so much

Xios

biccies wrote: »

Looking for opinions on a start up business taking someone on through job bridge, does it look bad? Its an IT business with one full time employee , can you give me your opinions please, thanks!!

Why are you using jobsbridge? Why not just get a business partner that gets a share of your company? Fierce stingy of you to expect an intern to do half the work and get your company started for a bit of experience.