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Smoking in Pubs after hours

Jumboman

I was in a pub (which I wont name unless I'm given permission to) in camden street in dublin last night when it got closing time the barmaid shut the main door into the pub and starting handing out ashtrays then half the pub started smoking.

This was a shock to me I have not been in a pub were people were smoking since the smoking ban was bought in. It made me remember what the horrible smell of tobacco was like which I was forced to inhale.

I woundn't mind so much if this pub had a special room for smokers but this was in the main bar and it was impossible for non smokers to avoid breathing in the smoke.

What I'd like to know does this happen in a lot of pubs were they let people smoke after hours ? or maybe I just went unlucky to have gone to a very dodgy establishment ?

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Help!!!!

TireeTerror if you went to some ones house party & they were smoking indoors would you leave?
& can you not encourage people to grass on each other
If you Scots had of stuck together & not screwed each other over ( William Wallace/Robert the Bruce ) ye would have got the English out years ago

TireeTerror

hynesie08 wrote: »

So are you charging for beer?

I fear incriminating oneself by answering such questions.

Help!!!!

TireeTerror wrote: »

You know I actually have setup a bar in my house, with draught and pool table and all that kind of thing. My friends got awfully excited about the idea of being able to smoke inside while playing pool. So far its alright seeings as its scorching hot these last few weeks, but I cant wait until the winter and they are standing in the rain greeting to get back in. My smug joy at this will be suitable compensation for about 3 years of my life being called "square" because I was the only one who didn't smoke despite their best efforts to try and humiliate me for not wanting to.

Oh how the tables have turned looking down upon them from my ivory tower!

You sound like your such a good mate cant imagine why the don't carry you around on their shoulders all day

hynesie08

TireeTerror wrote: »

I fear incriminating oneself by answering such questions.

So you're either charging- illegal

Or giving them free beer with some elaborate plan to make them smoke outside- stupid and expensive

Roose

Help!!!! wrote: »

TireeTerror if you went to some ones house party & they were smoking indoors would you leave?
& can you not encourage people to grass on each other
If you Scots had of stuck together & not screwed each other over ( William Wallace/Robert the Bruce ) ye would have got the English out years ago

Not sure if Braveheart is a reliable source for historic references.

TireeTerror

Help!!!! wrote: »

TireeTerror if you went to some ones house party & they were smoking indoors would you leave?
& can you not encourage people to grass on each other
If you Scots had of stuck together & not screwed each other over ( William Wallace/Robert the Bruce ) ye would have got the English out years ago

I would be happy for everyone to take a stand and not adhere to any of the bull**** laws, but if we are being told by people paying tax to cough up as we all have to contribute, then its only right I expect the law to be upheld also and not be for publicans with Gardai in their pocket, or a few select few. Im all for people taking drugs, drinking when they want and all out anarchy. Lets just go mental.

The problem though, is everyone just waffles ****e and they bottle it at the last minute. I almost got excited when I thought perhaps people might not pay the household charge, but at the moment of truth their bottle crashed and they pussied out and paid up. Its no wonder the elite of the country can do what they want and screw every single person, nobody has the balls to get together and do anything about it. Fcuk I couldn't even build a shelter to provide a home for myself without being forced to get into debt by means of a mortgage and then be controlled for most of my life as I struggle to repay it due to the gambling of b****. To actually sit and think about the situation we are all in, and the amount of control the Government have over us is terrifying, its enough to make we want to take up smoking just so I can join in with the futile rebellion!

aaronjumper

So are people incapable of asking the staff to unlock the doors so they can leave? Instead of sticking around and being flabbergasted by all the horrific smoking and general lawbreaking.

Best not mention the tv licence, cause all kinds of trouble in here.
TireeTerror going by your posts you would make a great judge. "I am. . . THE LAW!"

TireeTerror

aaronjumper wrote: »

So are people incapable of asking the staff to unlock the doors so they can leave? Instead of sticking around and being flabbergasted by all the horrific smoking and general lawbreaking.

Best not mention the tv licence, cause all kinds of trouble in here.
TireeTerror going by your posts you would make a great judge. "I am. . . THE LAW!"

A TV licence, just another example of daylight robbery. Technology is here to encrypt the service, but residents are forced by threat of indirect imprisonment to pay up for a crap service which isnt even capable of operating within that budget and therefore licence payers must still endure commercials all the time. How people pay for it is beyond me. I even baulk at the €80 I pay per year to cardshare Sky tv!

Mr Williams

Barmen who allow smoking should be taken out and shot.

I'd like to ask the OP where the fu*k was the old bill when all this was going on ?

Help!!!!

old bill? it was in Dublin not London there squire

hynesie08

TireeTerror wrote: »

A TV licence, just another example of daylight robbery. Technology is here to encrypt the service, but residents are forced by threat of indirect imprisonment to pay up for a crap service which isnt even capable of operating within that budget and therefore licence payers must still endure commercials all the time. How people pay for it is beyond me. I even baulk at the €80 I pay per year to cardshare Sky tv!

the police have been notified.

Dr Turk Turkelton

TireeTerror wrote: »

A TV licence, just another example of daylight robbery. Technology is here to encrypt the service, but residents are forced by threat of indirect imprisonment to pay up for a crap service which isnt even capable of operating within that budget and therefore licence payers must still endure commercials all the time. How people pay for it is beyond me. I even baulk at the €80 I pay per year to cardshare Sky tv!

Haha the law loving Scotsman gets caught breaking the law if not stereotypes by being too mean to buy a TV licence and subscription!

tomwaterford

Mr Williams wrote: »

Barmen who allow smoking should be taken out and shot.

I'd like to ask the OP where the fu*k was the old bill when all this was going on ?

is that a bit severe no??

Eutow

Mr Williams wrote: »

Barmen who allow smoking should be taken out and shot.

I'd like to ask the OP where the fu*k was the old bill when all this was going on ?

Behind a desk filing a report. Seriously, I would rather they go after some proper scumbags rather than people minding their own business enjoying a quiet drink.

TireeTerror

Dr Turk Turkelton wrote: »

Haha the law loving Scotsman gets caught breaking the law if not stereotypes by being too mean to buy a TV licence and subscription!

I am not too mean, I'm just not paying to watch RTE or any of that crap. I have a sat tuner that allows me to configure it to only have the channels I want in the EPG. I have specifically taken out all of the Irish channels, not because I'm scared, but simply because I have no interest in watching them and I cant be arsed having to scroll past them to see what I want.

BTW I cannot stand the law and the amount of control it has over us and I can see in front of my eyes our rights being diminished with each alteration of existing laws. I think we need them of course, but in moderation. Dont even get me started on the law on abortion in this country, its embarrassing the backward nature of this country at times. Its great in other ways too though, so its six and half a dozen.

People always ask me "What do you think of Ireland?" and I say "Its quite like Scotland in many ways, the culture, some of the hillier parts scenery wise, but it also feels like the UK did about 20 years ago. It seems a bit behind in the times."

Thats not intended as an insult, because advancement is not always for the better.

Little CuChulainn

El Weirdo wrote: »

You mean you pulled them out of your arse?

The graph you linked shows a decrease.

El Weirdo

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

The graph you linked shows a decrease.

Of 8000 p/a?

Besides, it shows a steady decrease (in men) since 1994 - a full decade before the smoking ban came into effect. The trend just continued.

Nib

Mr Williams wrote: »

Barmen who allow smoking should be taken out and shot.

I'd like to ask the OP where the fu*k was the old bill when all this was going on ?

In England.

paddyland

porsche959 wrote: »

It sounds as though you have strong anti-smoking opinions possibly due to losing someone close to you to lung cancer. If so, I'm sorry.

Nevertheless, must ask, I take it you are consistent on this and would favour a complete ban on the internal combustion engine, given the studies strongly suggestive of a link between traffic fumes and the 10% of lung cancers patients who never smoked?

I personally don't smoke and preferably don't even being like being around smokers, but consistency is important if one is occupying the moral highground, yes? Otherwise people might that one is being a mite hypocritical?

And there are other cancers not linked to smoking, and other illness, that are just as dreadful as lung cancer in the closing stages.

You're jumping the gun a bit there. I have known people who died awful deaths of lung cancer. But that is not why I am against smoking. I couldn't care less if smokers want to kill themselves, let them. But smokers stink. Smokers are stinking people. And I would have liked to think that the human race was moving forward into a more enlightened period of it's evolution.

Back in the nineteenth century, people had very little sanitation or hygiene, and everyone stank. Nowadays, with the advancement of the human species, and modern technology, we have hygiene, and people don't have to stink. But some backward people have not moved on. They are happy still to be stinking, and I believe their own impaired sense of smell inhibits their capacity to realise just how badly they stink.

I don't even want to be next to a smoker who is not smoking, because they stink even when they don't smoke. So much for washing, or wearing aftershave, or perfume, or nice fragrant things. Maybe I have a heightened sense of smell. Or maybe I just haven't ravaged my sensory faculties with unnatural and unnecessary behaviour.

Regarding internal combustion engines, no I wouldn't ban them, no more than I would ban smoking, except where it interferes with my personal space. I would drastically limit the number of internal combustion engines around me, but for a whole load of other reasons than the fumes they generate, which would be well down the list of reasons.

I Voted For Kodos

Just quit smoking, whole new world of ways to be smug has opened up to me.

Give evils to someone outside the pub. Feign coughing next to someone at the bus stop. Moan about a lock in on the internet.

Jumboman

So the gist of this thread is that it is OK to smoke in pubs and to hell with non smokers.

freshpopcorn

Jumboman wrote: »

So the gist of this thread is that it is OK to smoke in pubs and to hell with non smokers.

Well during an illegal lock-in yes.

[Deleted User]

Jumboman wrote: »

So the gist of this thread is that it is OK to smoke in pubs and to hell with non smokers.

I don't think anyone is saying that. I'd say the gist of this thread is that lock-ins are accepted as being an exception to the smoking ban (possibly the only exception) and to hell with whiners who are such delicate flowers that being around a few smokers for a short space of time is such a big ordeal.

major bill

Good to see the majority on After Hours are actually sane people I was starting to get worried.

OP what planet are you on? Alcohol causes more issues in this country than Smoking yet you don't see the contradiction of your argument. Your biggest threat in that pub that night was not from smoking. Having lots of experience from Lock ins I can hazard a guess that Alcohol wasn't the only drug been consumed.

I don't smoke myself but the attitude towards people that do is sickening on this at times.

junospider

Have to agree with Paddyland,smokers stink to high heaven,they are rank.The ban is one of the best things to happen and the sooner it is extended to all public places the better.

Pixelbastardo

Just lighting up now.

Mince Pie

Pixelbastardo wrote: »

Just lighting up now.

Bit early for a lock in?

tomwaterford

Mince Pie wrote: »

Bit early for a lock in?

not if its an all-nighter:pac:

HelenV

paddyland wrote: »

You're jumping the gun a bit there. I have known people who died awful deaths of lung cancer. But that is not why I am against smoking. I couldn't care less if smokers want to kill themselves, let them. But smokers stink. Smokers are stinking people. And I would have liked to think that the human race was moving forward into a more enlightened period of it's evolution.

Back in the nineteenth century, people had very little sanitation or hygiene, and everyone stank. Nowadays, with the advancement of the human species, and modern technology, we have hygiene, and people don't have to stink. But some backward people have not moved on. They are happy still to be stinking, and I believe their own impaired sense of smell inhibits their capacity to realise just how badly they stink.

I don't even want to be next to a smoker who is not smoking, because they stink even when they don't smoke. So much for washing, or wearing aftershave, or perfume, or nice fragrant things. Maybe I have a heightened sense of smell. Or maybe I just haven't ravaged my sensory faculties with unnatural and unnecessary behaviour.

Regarding internal combustion engines, no I wouldn't ban them, no more than I would ban smoking, except where it interferes with my personal space. I would drastically limit the number of internal combustion engines around me, but for a whole load of other reasons than the fumes they generate, which would be well down the list of reasons.

It's people like you who absolutely sicken me. Do you think life is centered around your blasted nose? Your self-righteous attitude has a more pungent stench to it that any cigarette smoke ever had - but then again you'll be oblivious to that smell - others however won't!!

TireeTerror

HelenV wrote: »

It's people like you who absolutely sicken me. Do you think life is centered around your blasted nose? Your self-righteous attitude has a more pungent stench to it that any cigarette smoke ever had - but then again you'll be oblivious to that smell - others however won't!!

The fact is smokers have crappy sense of smell, and the fact is that smokers are disgustingly smelly, in fact I've often noticed they have a fair bit of BO and they don't seem to notice. Its just a fact that smokers are reeking and their yellow teeth and fingers make them repulsive not only to smell, but to look at too.

Only a complete and utter moron would smoke these days, in fact anybody taking up smoking in the last 20 years deserves all they get when they suffer an agonising death from whatever smoking related illness they get. Self-inflicted and they deserve no more respect than the junkie in the street.

Death to all smokers and lets ban it! The best way to start would be to simply hire hit squads, they would roll up and take aim while the stinking smokers are standing outside having a puff. This smoking ban makes it nice and easy for the hit squads to clean up the streets!

I would not even want paid for it, I would volunteer to take aim, bonuses for head shots! I think people should be tested while pregnant, if they are smoking, then abort the pregnancy or if its too late then take the child of them.