richymcdermott wrote: » not everyone has the income to shell out money on a extra controller and games and sure adding backwards compatibility would cost extra but I rather pay extra just so I would not have to be afraid of my old console being broken or worry about hd collections and remaster bull****. I do not know if Corporate men and women in sony and Ms have forgotten but we are in a middle of a recession thats not going anywhere anytime soon.
FlyingIrishMan wrote: » Sony added backwards compatibility with the PS3 and it costed extra.. but it flopped so they dropped it. Don't expect them to accommodate the desires of a small minority, they're a business. btw, we've been officially out of recession for almost a year now.
richymcdermott wrote: » If I see people hype as **** over master chief collections , last of us remastered from the same folks who bet the single player 3 times on ps3 , silent hill hd , zone of the enders hd then by all means its not a minority its everyone no matter what way you want to sugar coat it. Ps3 had BC yeah but original model was priced the way it was the custom chips they decided to use took a big bollocks out of there pockets and they needed to get that money back somehow. still would not of killed them for allowing people to use there ps3 and 360 controllers which are all worthless and plastic crap in a few years
FlyingIrishMan wrote: » Why should people getting excited about games bother you? They're improved versions, and with the Halo game it'll breathe new life into some of the older games that were pretty much dead. Letting people enjoy them properly again with full communities. Just don't buy it if you don't want them. You think it'd be cheap to add a custom CELL processor into the PS4 just for the purpose of backwards compatibility? It's not worth it, no matter how many tens of people say they'd rather pay more. The controller thing is a non-issue imo. It'd be nice, but you're making it into a bigger problem than it is. Plus the new controllers add extra functionality, so if a game used said functionality (touchpad), then anybody playing with a DS3 wouldn't be able to play the game.
ShadowHearth wrote: » PS4 touch pad is as useful and revolutionary as Kinect... Both are pretty much useless and barely anyone would miss them if they would be completely gone. ( waiting for few people to jump in and scream how awesome kinect is and how it makes them jizz everytime they say "xbox on!" a function that 5eu mic would do ) So far, there is not a single game that forces you in using touchpad on controller just for the sake of it. Ps3 controller would do job perfectly.
FlyingIrishMan wrote: » You think it'd be cheap to add a custom CELL processor into the PS4 just for the purpose of backwards compatibility? It's not worth it, no matter how many tens of people say they'd rather pay more.
richymcdermott wrote: » Much like the wii with the wii u Nintendo consoles are so Customer friendly I wish Sony or MS would follow suite. Nintendo allowing to use gamecube controllers for wii u for less than 20 euros that you can connect with the adaptor why Ms and and Sony would do the same is beyond me. not everyone has the income to shell out money on a extra controller and games and sure adding backwards compatibility would cost extra but I rather pay extra just so I would not have to be afraid of my old console being broken or worry about hd collections and remaster bull****. I do not know if Corporate men and women in sony and Ms have forgotten but we are in a middle of a recession thats not going anywhere anytime soon.
FlyingIrishMan wrote: » Why should people getting excited about games bother you? They're improved versions, and with the Halo game it'll breathe new life into some of the older games that were pretty much dead. Letting people enjoy them properly again with full communities. Just don't buy it if you don't want them. You think it'd be cheap to add a custom CELL processor into the PS4 just for the purpose of backwards compatibility? It's not worth it, no matter how many tens of people say they'd rather pay more.The controller thing is a non-issue imo. It'd be nice, but you're making it into a bigger problem than it is. Plus the new controllers add extra functionality, so if a game used said functionality (touchpad), then anybody playing with a DS3 wouldn't be able to play the game.
FlyingIrishMan wrote: » I didn't say it was useful, or revolutionary. I said if a game uses it for anything at all (which many games do), then backwards compatibility with the DS3 is out of the question,
nix wrote: » Why would it not be worth it? Id prefer to just play the old games if i really wanted to instead of having developers wasting time on remasters when they could be spending some of the cash we have already given them for the game to fund new games, not games we've already paid/played for Or just cough up the €100 for the old console (if i didnt have it already) and play the games that way, if i really wanted to..
ShadowHearth wrote: » Not a single game out there on PS4 that could not work without touchpad. the games that use touchpad are using it only for the lols or Sony said "find a fecking way or no check this week". So far the only way its used, is to swipe to 4 directions to use a weapon or ability and then completely leave D-pad unused. I will say it again - THERE IS NOT A SINGLE GAME THAT COULD NOT WORK WITHOUT DS4.
ShadowHearth wrote: » I will say it again - THERE IS NOT A SINGLE GAME THAT COULD NOT WORK WITHOUT DS4.
richymcdermott wrote: » If you dont BC or not being able to use past controllers all power to you but because I would do not go throwing it back at my face.
FlyingIrishMan wrote: » I didn't realize offering a different point of view counted as "throwing it back in your face". Don't be so sensitive. And I do think backwards compatibilty would be nice, I just don't think the trade off is worth it. More money, to play older games for a console I already own. If you want backwards compatibility, that's fine, you're welcome to petition for it, but looking at it from Sony's point of view it would be a bad decision to add it if it meant upping the price of the console.
richymcdermott wrote: » I do not mind a different opinion but you were you were going on about how I was making a big of nothing to what wanting more options. Hard to be sensitive over videogames :pac::pac:
FlyingIrishMan wrote: » Bit of an oxymoron that statement. You don't mind different opinions but at the same time I was going on about how you was making a big of nothing to what wanting more options?
richymcdermott wrote: » take of it what you will , you are clearly the corporate marketcontrollers dont careBackward compatibility dont careonline passes dont mind Online Subscriptions dont carepre order bonus dont careDlc Dont care Rule Number uno on the internet do not take **** seriously
FlyingIrishMan wrote: » Not sure what you mean by I'm the corporate market. I care about all the things you listed, I'm just able to look at things from the business perspective and understand that some things aren't financially viable. The bottom line of every single business in the world is to make money.
tok9 wrote: » Is someone arguing that point? I liked it in Killzone and I'm looking forward to it in TLOU.. been saying it to friends for a long time that it's just a lot more comfortable instead of moving to the d-pad. All games can/do work without using the DS4 speakers.. however I love it when it is used. Again Killzone, Transistor (soon to be TLOU)
Varik wrote: » War Thunder. They've copied the PC version right over for menus and the main menu, even using the sticks to control a cursor would be a pain.
richymcdermott wrote: » My post was simply saying Nintendo is customer friendly adding multiple controllers from different generations that can still work and I would of liked sony or ms would do the same for people who bought 300 euros worth of controllers from last via adapter input
Varik wrote: » No but both MS and Sony do the same for people who've bought 1000s of euros of games, Nintendo treat digital the same as physical games and have a offer the stupidest system to transfer content from one device to another.
ShadowHearth wrote: » Using touchpad to navigate Warthunder menus is like putitng your dick in a blender and at the same time to try to touch your nose with tongue. You can use whole menu with controller with no touchpad. so you could use ps3 controller again.
