Robbie.G wrote: » If you have no intention of ever burning coal go with the wood burner. The only thing with the multifuel you have the option.
Mountainsandh wrote: » On another topic, could I please have feedback from anyone with an Irish Isles boiler stove ? I see some people were considering them in 2011, so hoping someone out there can give us feedback from the past 3 years of use. We need to choose a stove for a smallish bungalow soon, 6/7 rads, we don't intend to heat water with it, but heat to room output would need to be good since room will have a high-ish ceiling and loft area (not many windows). We are looking at the Inis Oirr model. It won't be in constant use, more like a holiday home situation, but when in use, we'd like it to be efficient of course. Thanks for any feedback on them.
Sunny Dayz wrote: » Making a decision on a stove seems to be one of the hardest things to do going by this thread! We are torn between the Stanley Cara+ and the Kingstar Falcon - both are inset stoves with back boilers..... The Kingstar stove supplier they sort out the installation, plumbings all that. The local Staney supplier does have a few recommended plumbers on their books but it will be separate from the store. But I think the Stanley stove looks nicer! Decisions Decisions.....
therealmccoy wrote: » Can't say I know of a Kingstar Falcon stove. By any chance is it the Phoenix Boiler Stove?
Sunny Dayz wrote: » No it's not the Phoenix as my friend's parents have one of those. It said Falcon in the showroom. Edit: Just googled the stove - turns out the brand of the stove is Falcon - I thought it was the name of the stove as the showroom mainly does Firestar. This is it here:http://www.falconfires.com/falcon-450si-inset-stove.html
therealmccoy wrote: » Ah yes, I know the one now. Grand stove, wouldn't have anything bad to say other than you will struggle to get spare parts as the manufacturer has gone out of business.
arbf1 wrote: » Hi I need some advice on an insert/inset boiler stove. I am wondering if anyone has any experience with the Stratford EB16iHE. This is the 16kw inset boiler model. 13.5kw to water and 5kw to room. We have 8 rads (5 double). currently have no thermostat on rads but will look into getting them too when installing. We have a mid sized sitting room to heat (13ft by 16ft) and have double doors out to kitchen (8ft x 12ft) which I would love to be able to leave open. will be heating the water from it too. fairly well insulated however currently have single glazed windows which I know will let us down abit. I have been reading loads about inset stoves and I like this one because of larger output to room than others I have looked into. (Stanley, Mulberry, Henley, heat design, Boru, Esse, Yola, Causeway). I am also considering the reputation of companies as I read. I came across a polish company today called Kratki stoves that seem to do bigger outputs, I can't find much about them online however. The stratford company also seem to keep a low profile so I would welcome any thoughts from people who have actually bought from company. I am so worried about spending all this money and the house still not being warm enough. I am not sure of the above stoves themselves so would value any opinions or advice.
arbf1 wrote: » Thank you so much therealmccoy, the salesman in stove shop did flag extra width alright, I presume I would need a builder to widen fireplace and a plumber to do installation in that case. Has anyone any experience of cost of this? Just a rough estimate even. Is it a big job? We have an ineffective back boiler already so will be putting stove in its place. I am a little concerned that the room output is advertised as 1.5 to 5kw. The salesman said the 1.5kw would only be when it was first lit but I am always distrusting of salesmen and know from experience to take what they say with a pinch of salt. I was talking to a woman today who installed an insert last winter, she says water is hot and plentiful and the rads are hot but she still feels the room it is in is not hot enough. She could not remember brand but lives nearby and invited me to see it. I won't buy this brand for the reason she said (as I know she is not afraid of stocking up a fire). I spend so much time in sitting room and kitchen and would love to be warm and comfortable in them. Unfortunately room is not big enough especially in layout for traditional stove. The salesman (again pinch of salt) said it would be a big job to fit traditional stove into fireplace and although it looks nice in display photos it is often not effective as you are heating inside fireplace rather than out into the room. Has anyone any experience of this. If you were picking an insert stove to do job I describe what would you pick? Thank you.
Markie58 wrote: » Hey folks looking for opinions at the min. In the middle of a new build. Looking to put in 2 multifuel stoves small on in living room - looking at Charnwood c5 and a larger free standing double sided stove in the kitchen (not linked to a back boiler). Ventilation to this one is by mean of a hit n miss vent on the floor underneath where the stove will sit (by means of a 4 inch duct in the floor screed). Reviews are a bit thin on the ground relating to double sided stoves. Have heard/ read the air wash systems don't always work with these. Had looked at dunsley highlander 8 and a boru carrig mor. Has anyone any other suggestions of better stoves to look at? Or any experience with either of these stoves? Thanks
arbf1 wrote: » Hi I am back again, I visited another stove showroom today. The salesman recommended the Heat Design 18KW Insert boiler stove. Now this retails at 1200 euro. 800 less than the Stratford16i I was looking at previously. i had a niggling feeling when he mentioned the stove nam that I had read mixed reviews, I checked when I got home and they are mixed. The salesman himself said they are Chinese made and imported, he thought the Stratford could have some Chinese parts too so said not to let it influence me. I am on here looking for any opinions of this stove. In the brochure it says 12.1kw to the water and heats 10 rads. salesman said 5kw to room but does not state this in brochure. I like that it is cheaper obviously but I want quality and so will pay for it. Another bonus would be not having to widen fireplace as with the Stratford 16i I have to do this. Also how would this stove compare to the Stratford 12i which also would be cheaper than the 16i and I wouldn't have to widen fireplace. You can probably tell I am still leaning towards Stratford but please give me honest opinions and personal experience would be especially helpful. Thank you.
Green farmer wrote: » Hi guys. I have a non boiler stove in my sitting room for several years and love it. I want to take the plunge and swap in over for one with a back boiler, to heat radiators ( 16 rads, counting double rad as 2 ). In general are boiler stoves noisy ? do they do a good job heating rads and would all the heat go to the boiler section of them as opposed to heating sitting room ? Thanks
Green farmer wrote: » Thanks the real McCoy, The current stove I have is 2ft wide by 1ft deep. Bought it several years ago. A budget brand. The room is 14 ft x 21ft . Gets hot in winter, but I leave the sitting room door open and the heat travels around the hall upstairs/ downstairs and the bedroom located above the sitting room. I'm not a huge fan of the insert stoves and like the traditional stoves. I have a stove kettle and boil up a cup of tea on it at night while watching tv. Not too sure about zoning house, but I'm sure it could be an option, many thanks !!!
Green farmer wrote: » Anybody know the rule of thumb for converting radiator size to kilowatt ?. I've measured all the radiators in the house for sizing up a boiler stove. I think a 4ft single rad is 1 kilowatt, and a double 2kw, but I'm not sure ? Anybody know the exact calculation, would be much appreciated. Thanks
PaddyJules wrote: » Looking at getting a boiler stove to heat rads and wate, freestanding not inset. Think we have narrowed it down to the Stratford EB16 and Charnwood Country 16b. Cant decide between them so has anyone any advice. Head is fried with the amount of stoves out there, so please help me decide.