Johro wrote: » Exactly. And don't forget that the last time this happened on this scale, journalists were not allowed anywhere near the conflict, were effectively sidelined, and were given written statements to read out provided by the Israelis.
fta93 wrote: » Why was Snows laptop practically destroyed by the IDF on re entry to Israel?
speedboatchase wrote: » Yeah, killing innocent civilians is obviously wrong. By the way, who are Hamas' rockets targeted towards? Innocent civilians? Ah... cool. More Hamasplaining.
speedboatchase wrote: » You're aware that Hamas has forbid reporters from taking photographs of militants? Yeah, Hamas, that beacon of press freedom.https://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/all-news-hamas-sees-fit-print_796823.html The amount of hypocrisy here is very entertaining. Hold Hamas to the same moral standard please.
fta93 wrote: » How many civilians killed in Israel? How many killed in Palestine? Yeah. I'm supporting Hamas though amnt I? Because being outraged at Palestine kids being targeted and killed equals supporting Hamas. You might as well call me anti-Semitic next just to get it out of the way.
speedboatchase wrote: » Are you calling UNRWA liars?http://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/press-releases/unrwa-condemns-placement-rockets-second-time-one-its-schools "Today, in the course of the regular inspection of its premises, UNRWA discovered rockets hidden in a vacant school in the Gaza Strip." Remove that tin foil hat. There's a good lad.
speedboatchase wrote: » By the way, who are Hamas' rockets targeted towards?
Fiery mutant wrote: » The fact that there is very few Israeli civilians killed is down to Iron dome, and the in accuracy of Hamas rockets. If Hamas had more potent weaponry to target innocent civilians, they would use it.
speedboatchase wrote: » Maybe Israel will shut down the Iron Dome for a few days to get that magical "proportionate" casaulty figure you're all craving. Or maybe Israel will continue to protect its people rather than deliberately put them in harm's way for good PR.
Buzz Killington the third wrote: » First, there's still no photos or footage as I mentioned. Second, Hamas wasn't mentioned in that report once. Third, Vacant school... Yet Israel target schools housing refugees including children.
fta93 wrote: » So you're arguing intent basically, that both want to kill kids.. You can argue ifs and buts all you like, But the fact is only one side is murdering children.
Fiery mutant wrote: » And the Hamas militants who emerged from a tunnel in Israel only 200 metres from kindergarten a few days ago, should they have had a chance to even the score? It only by chance that the Israeli soldiers they encountered noticed that they were not carrying standard issue M16 or Tavor assault rifles, but Ak-47 rifles, and opened fire. Otherwise, things could have been much much worse.
fta93 wrote: » Craving casualties? Aren't you classy. Most are f*king outraged because kids are being murdered left right and centre and you're spouting nonsense that it's ok cos Hamas want to do this but can't.
speedboatchase wrote: » You won't see photos of rockets, or militants, anywhere in Gaza. Hamas is controlling the images that you're seeing. Haven't you not thought it strange that you haven't seen these images at all?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxzZ5cm8ZCw&feature=youtu.be Here is Hamas's guidelines for “cautious and effective” social media engagement on Facebook and Twitter. "“Do not publish photos or video clips depicting locations of rocket launches or movements of resistance [Hamas members] in Gaza,” the video warns. “To Facebook news page administrators, do not display photos of masked men carrying heavy weapons up close, so that your page isn’t shut for inciting violence.” “Make sure in every roundup to mention the number of women and children killed or injured. There is nothing wrong with displaying photos of the injured,” Hamas urged in the video. From: http://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-warns-residents-against-revealing-downtown-gaza-launches/#ixzz38QhZvcU7
fta93 wrote: » "From: times of Israel.." And people were accusing Jon Snow of bias an propaganda..
wes wrote: » The IDF on the other hand do have the capability of precise targeting and yet they still somehow manage to murder 4 children playing football on a beach in broad day light, with no militants near by, or any reason to fire on the beach, other than there were Palestinians children having a little bit of fun.
speedboatchase wrote: » Why do you think Hamas persist in firing the rockets if they are completely ineffective? I'm not saying it's OK at all, but I'm saying that it sounds like a lot of you guys think it's OK for Hamas to fire at civilians because they probably won't hit their targets. You're holding Israel to a different moral standard for a discriminate policy and ignoring Hamas' indiscriminate policy. The more the deaths pile up, especially innocent civilians, the more Hamas has the edge in terms in bringing overwhelming condemnation on Israel and achieving favourable ceasefire terms.
fta93 wrote: » 200 metres from a kindergarten is the same as nailing 4 kids playing football on a beach sure.
FullblownRose wrote: » How many would have been killed had the missiles not been intercepted? How many would be left now if the israeis were not able to defend themseves and the suicide bombers were successful?
Johro wrote: » It would be kinda stupid of them to show rocket installations, their locations, or close ups of the people who fire them.
Fiery mutant wrote: » Actually, the fact they had not finished the tunnel is probably the only reason those kids were not reached. Hamas use google maps to target areas inside Israel for their rockets and tunnel targets. Do you think it is by accident that tunnel was that close to a kindergarten?
speedboatchase wrote: » The problem is that independent press corps appear to be complying with this: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2014/07/21/nyt-apparently-other-press-orgs-complying-hamas-coverage-restrictions Obviously they are complying because you can't find those shots anywhere.
Buzz Killington the third wrote: » I don't even know what you're trying to say here because you're pointing out Hamas guidelines for how their members should and should not post content. I'm talking about basic journalism. The UNRWA found rockets, they're not Hamas, why did they not release images? Why have countless other journalists that are in Gaza not seen what Israel says is going on?
