Privileged White Male wrote: » No men and women can't be 'just friends'. How can they be, we wired to be attracted to the opposite sex. A woman will almost never sleep with her male friend but he will still lust after her. I've had girls tell me how betrayed they felt when a 'friend' suddenly declared he had been in love with her for years. Blows my mind that women will be friends with a guy and then freak out when he makes a move on her. What you thought he wanted to be your friend and get to know your beautiful mind? No, he wanted to sleep with you. And why do you feel sorry for me, why is my outlook so bad?
Privileged White Male wrote: » No men and women can't be 'just friends'. How can they be, we wired to be attracted to the opposite sex.
gadetra wrote: » Men and women can be friends. Just friends. They can find all the attributes of friendship in each other, without any sexual undercurrent. I know as I do it, have done it, and will do it in the future. I feel sorry for you because you have cut out half the population as friends, and it's really sad that you can't think beyond genitals in terms of friendship. It's very immature in my opinion, and emotionally under-developed too. You are saying you can't be friends with a member of the opposite sex without fancying them or wanting to sleep with them for feic sake! How is that in any way good?!! I feel sorry for you that you are missing out on half the population as friends, and saddened that a guy cannot in this day and age see a woman other than in terms of whether he wants to/would sleep with her or not. It's equally saddening the other way round too. It's 2014!
Pawwed Rig wrote: » You are projecting your inability to have friends of the opposite gender on the entire population. I can assure you that most posters on here and people in general can have perfectly healthy non sexual relationships with both sexes. Personally I have female friends who I never even entertained the prospect of a relationship or sex with.
Privileged White Male wrote: » It's not an inability. I did and still have female friends but I've made a conscious decision not to make any more. Maybe if I settle down and get married my outlook will change.
Pawwed Rig wrote: » How can you have female friends while asserting that 'men and women can't be 'just friends''?
Privileged White Male wrote: » Well I'm an old fashioned kind of guy. I believe there should be more segregation between the sexes. At this stage it almost feels unnatural trying to be friends with a woman. Besides, male friendships are simply more rewarding. I find men a lot more fun to hang out with. Similar outlooks and mentalities. With a woman I'd have to modify my behavior, be careful with the jokes I tell. Hey if you can be friends with a woman and it doesn't get complicated then more power to you. If I'm hanging out with a nice looking chick and we're joking around and having fun, sooner or later I'm going to become attracted to her and want more, can't help it.
gadetra wrote: » Wow. Old fashioned? No you are not old fashioned. You have problems man, big issues around women. I pity any poor unfortunate woman who ends up with someone as chauvinistic, sexist and emotionally damaged as you. You clearly don't respect women as equals, and the behaviour modification? Men more fun? Jesus christ. You have serious issues man. As a woman, I find no difference in friendships with men or women. I find differences with people alright, you share different things with different people and have different relationships with them, but based on your own and their personalities not their gender.
Privileged White Male wrote: » Ah you're a woman well that explains it. Guarantee you some of your wonderful male friends want to sleep with you. And I'm 'chauvinistic, sexist and emotionally damaged' simply because I have my own outlook and opinions on men and women? Seems anytime a man expresses an opinion on sex and relationships that goes against the grain, women freak and try and shame him.
gadetra wrote: » Eh? How exactly? Plenty of other posters have expressed a similar opinion. It's less that it 'goes against the grain' and more than it dismisses half the population as equals. This understandably dumbfounds me, as I am sure it would you if you read a message that stated that half the population deemed all Privilieged White Male's are only to be judged or related to in terms of one single human trait, nothing else. That is problematic, there can be no doubt about that.
K-9 wrote: » I suppose it depends what way you look at it. You might think your view is right and nothing needs changing or, you might take the other point of view on board and think "maybe its a bit odd I can't make any new female friends".
Privileged White Male wrote: » What's equality got to do with it?
Privileged White Male wrote: » And a lot of radical feminists do have a problem with white men, but I'm not sure why you brought that up.
Privileged White Male wrote: » Yeah that is a fair point and as I said my outlook might change when I'm happily married and raising a family. By right now as a young single man I know what I'm looking for and it ain't friendship. I have my men for my friends and I've always found male friendship far more rewarding. But I do think its laughable that I'm a 'chauvinistic pig' simplely for having my own view on men and women.
gadetra wrote: » Feminism is viewed with such suspicion, and almost always accompanied with the radical tag. It's not rules to live your life by, it's not about hating anyone or group. It's about establishing equality for all, not one to the detriment of the other. Thinking it is shows a lack of education on the matter frankly. Anyway that was a bit OT, apologies.
gadetra wrote: » Quite a lot. Equality is being related to as an equal, so relating to both genders equally. It's kind of the point! I was trying to explain to you why someone would have a problem with he point of view you are projecting. I tried to inver it, but as I don't know you, I could not use your name so I used your user name instead. It sailed over your head. Never mind. On the feminist thing, feminism is about equality not male v female or race. It's not the 70's anymore and things have moved on. Not all feminism is radical, and actually radical feminism is incredibly rare, I can say I have honestly met none in my life so far, and I am a feminist and have been around a lot of feminists and studied feminism. Still never met one! Feminism is viewed with such suspicion, and almost always accompanied with the radical tag. It's not rules to live your life by, it's not about hating anyone or group. It's about establishing equality for all, not one to the detriment of the other. Thinking it is shows a lack of education on the matter frankly. Anyway that was a bit OT, apologies.
Pawwed Rig wrote: » But it is not about equality anymore as can be seen from the numerous articles that are currently being promoted by the popular media. But as you say it is off topic but should you wish to continue the discussion there are other threads in TGC that are discussing similar issues
gadetra wrote: » No one called you a 'chauvinistic pig'.
Privileged White Male wrote: » I'm pretty sure someone did.
gadetra wrote: » Read over the thread. They did not. I called your attitude chauvinistic, but you labelled yourself a chauvinistic pig all by yourself!
seachto7 wrote: » Pros: Doing what you want, when you want, whenever you want, to suit you and nobody else. Cons: You get so used to your own time, and doing things to suit yourself, that it is a shock to have to curb this, or sacrifice this to spend time with someone else. Of course, if they are worth it, it won't be such an ordeal, but I do think you can get very used to your own company and your own schedule.
Privileged White Male wrote: » But whats so wrong with my attitude? I'm not hurting anyone.
ElecKtrA wrote: » Hi, I'm a single girl (I don't even know if I'm allowed to post in here but anyway...:p)... I couldn't agree more with the 'con's' !!! Ugh!! I suppose it also boils down to the fact if you're willing to change your ways in order to accommodate someone else in your life. I'm not anti-relationship (or maybe I am ..and I'm just in denial :rolleyes:) but it's definitely not good to have your own way all the time as a single person - because then you would be more reluctant to change ..that is the case with me anyway, I think But I also think...if you are seeing someone and you really do ''click'' then you wouldn't view your change in lifestyle as anything negative
Privileged White Male wrote: » You ran into the mother hen. I've experienced this too. Girls get 'protective' about their friends, more likely its jealousy.
Onthe3rdDay wrote: » 9 times out of 10 it's jealously. These protective Girls aren't looking out for their friends, it's usually that they're control freaks. I used to come across them all the time when I was in my 20's in College. I would only be talking to a girl with no other motive than a chat and you'd get this type causing a distraction, or even in one case directly intervening. You could say I was the problem but all my male friends encountered the same behaviour from the same girls. It was a throwback to school days in some form.
