dowlingm wrote: » 5 mph on the tramway. There is a sign visible from Street View. I can see the Wexford southern exit getting buffer stops like Tralee's exit toward Fenit if something isn't done to increase loads to Rosslare. Then 46min will be chopped out of the schedule.
corktina wrote: » Given that you have to ride a bus out to the ship anyway, perhaps the solution is a bus transfer at Wexford, running direct to the ship via customs and immigration.
corktina wrote: » only a suggestion to address the 46 mins situation and free up paths and stock.
Copyerselveson wrote: » Here's a positive and realistic suggestion - fence off the Wexford Quayside line, time trains with all the ferries and reinstate the link to Waterford and run those trains straight to Galway via the WRC.
loyatemu wrote: » Who in their right mind would want to travel by bus from Rosslare to Galway?
loyatemu wrote: » Who in their right mind would want to travel by train from Rosslare to Galway?
Copyerselveson wrote: » All part of the marketing of Ireland - think of it as a backpacker's special. As Banjoxed says who in their right mind would travel from Rosslare to Galway by bus?
Copyerselveson wrote: » As Banjoxed says who in their right mind would travel from Rosslare to Galway by bus?
If I had a bit of money to buy/ lease a train, I'd start an Enniscorthy - Waterford service, as IÉ give the the best replacement rail service €250k annually. And last time I checked, a service lasting 1:20 is way better than a bus journey 1:55 long, excluding delays at rush hours in New Ross.
Jamie2k9 wrote: » Fencing off the line would only deliver a minimal improvement to speeds.
Jamie2k9 wrote: » As for the 46 minute saving, it would have no impact on stock rosters.
Jamie2k9 wrote: » IE had such a service already.....
man98 wrote: » Irish Rail's "Service" was laughable. In the mornings 3 days a week a train from Enniscorthy ran down to connect with it, with no return connections in the evening. Secondly (and this is relevant to passenger numbers) I rarely saw ticket checkers, which meant anyone who didn't board in Waterford or Rosslare Strand couldn't pay for their tickets quite often. This is probably why numbers fluctuated. I saw 70 onboard in Campile (first station from Waterford) and 65 at Ballycullane, and 50 at Wellingtonbridge. This is quite a bit higher than 25, as Irish Rail said. This makes me wonder if other lightly travelled routes have the same situation, such as Manulla, Waterford - Limerick Junction and, to a lesser extent, Ballybrophy - Limerick.
end of the road wrote: » couple that with the fact the line was in wexford, mind you the main line to dublin ends up with a second class service at times when we have to put up with a glorified dublin bus vehicle on rails known as the 2900 class, if the trains were consistantly the proper long distance trains like other long distance routes then people might either come to use it or come back, but it seems the customers on this line aren't worth been given a good consistant comfortable product. customers on this line have been dissrespected for years so nothing is going to change, a shame
corktina wrote: » Suitable rolling stock is available though, it's just IE prefer to use it on Dub-Cork and stored the mk4s. I don't blame Wexford line users for being disgruntled.
TINA1984 wrote: » You mean you want parity with the other 'Intercity' lines which have large population bases at either end of it? Sorry mate, that doesn't make sense.
TINA1984 wrote: » Belfast, Cork/Limerick & Galway will always get the better rolling stock, that's just how it is.
TINA1984 wrote: » You should be grateful that, along with the Sligo line, the significant commuter population from the Greater Dublin Area means the Rosslare line hasn't been shuttered completely.
TINA1984 wrote: » I'd wager the rolling stock on the line is wholly suitable for most of the customers who utilise it.
end of the road wrote: » really? providing the same standard of comfort to us that other long distance routes get doesn't make sense? really? it doesn't? ah yes, we should except a to tier rail system because "thats how it is" cork and belfast will get different stock, galway limerick and so on get the same rolling stock as us, but all of the time, not when IE can spair a unit. the intercity railcars are designed for long distance routes which rosslare and sligo are, the 2900 class are suburban railcars designed for short distance high capacity routes which sligo and rosslare aren't, i'm afraid "thats just how it is" isn't good enough and is no defence for these things being used on the line to rosslare and sligo. yes, i should be so greatful that i have a rail service at all that i should have to put up with a second class service, no wonder people go to and have gone other alternatives with an attitude like that your joking right? you honestly think suburban railcars are "wholly suitable for most of the customers who use the line" if that is the case how come passengers have gone down since suburban railcars were introduced on the line back in 2004? thankfully they have come back slightly but if you think glorified dublin bus vehicles are suitable for a journey of nearly 3 hours then i hope you never get a management job in irish rail.
Jamie2k9 wrote: » It was a Monday-Friday service and there was a return connection. I will check to confirm the return service but I am near certain. Irish Rail didn't say only 25 used the service, it was an average of 25 per service on the line.
Judgement Day wrote: » As one of the few who post here that uses trains - as opposed to chasing them by road to take photographs - I assure you that the Enniscorthy/Waterford service was a complete farce from the outset. I have correspondence with Dick Fearn about it but I haven't the energy to scan it now. Tomorrow perhaps. At one point the totally unpromoted service was replaced by a bus between Enniscorthy and Rosslare Strand and by another bus between two South Wexford stations - I forget which - due to flooding or some other problem. On the first day of operation myself and another intending passenger (yes there were 2 of us) were locked out of the station and would have missed the train had I not had the signalman's mobile number in my phone. CIE is past its sell by date as is the Department of (Road) Transport.:mad:
