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Knex*

Aspas turns 27 in a week or so, and he looks like he's just done the Leaving and is heading into college. Maybe that's what fooled Liverpool into signing him.

Vicxas

Knex. wrote: »

Aspas turns 27 in a week or so, and he looks like he's just done the Leaving and is heading into college. Maybe that's what fooled Liverpool into signing him.

Its like that 17 year old Lazio player who everyone thought was 35.

Grayditch

Aspas is the busiest guy at the office that doesn't get a thing done.

Vicxas

Apparently Spurs and Monaco are in for Griezmann.

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SlickRic wrote: »

so long for now, sweet prince.

Needs some leaning to make it official.

Jeez, Ian Ayre aged over the weekend

Grayditch

Vicxas wrote: »

Apparently Spurs and Monaco are in for Griezmann.

Let's see how attractive Lahndan is when Monaco is an option :pac:

daithijjj

Gerrard retires from England

http://www.thefa.com/news/england/2014/jul/steven-gerrard-press-conference-200714

Fescue

daithijjj wrote: »

Gerrard retires from England

http://www.thefa.com/news/england/2014/jul/steven-gerrard-press-conference-200714

The only worry now is it will prolong his club career.

Vicxas

Stevie G has retired from international football

Edit: Clearly beaten to it

Utopia Parkway

daithijjj wrote: »

Gerrard retires from England

http://www.thefa.com/news/england/2014/jul/steven-gerrard-press-conference-200714

Good. Probably should have done it after Euro 2012 to be honest. He played really well in that tournament and you get no thanks for hanging in there for England once it goes pear shaped.

Pilsbury Doughboy

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TheTownie

Looks like Borini wants to stay.

Graeme Bailey ‏@GraemeBailey 1m
Fabio Borini's agent has told the Italian media that the forward will be turning down Sunderland's offer to fight for his place at Liverpool

Does that affect the Remy deal lads do ye think?

PropJoe10

Gerrard has retired from international football. Good news for us:

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/166831-gerrard-reveals-england-retirement

Turtyturd

Excellent movement from Borini if true, looks to be out the door and one stage much to the delight of one or two posters, only to pull a 180.

Top top movement.

Utopia Parkway

TheTownie wrote: »

Looks like Borini wants to stay.

Does that affect the Remy deal lads do ye think?

Doubt it. Rodgers wanted another striker anyway.

As much as it's admirable for a player to want to fight for his place the offer is too good to turn down so I still hope Borini can be convinced to move.

brevity

[CynicalHatOn]Methinks that Sunderland's wages were the sticking point[/CynicalHatOn]

Washington Irving

Don't mind Borini staying at all, but I'd rather have £14 million.

brevity wrote: »

[CynicalHatOn]Methinks that Sunderland's wages were the sticking point[/CynicalHatOn]

His wages at Liverpool were reported to be £30-40k p/w. Can't imagine Sunderland weren't willing to pay that or even slightly more.

PhiloCypher

Borini really needs to show us something in preseason if he is determined to fight for his place. Hasn't done much of note in the first two games, albeit they were both disjointed performances due to the amount of subs.

klose

Its admirable to hear fabio say he wants to stay and fight for his place but we are stacked with attackers, who of sturridge/remy/sterling/markovic/lallanna/lambert does he get a game ahead of? Even ibe and suso made a stake for a place more than fabio in the last game. I imagine the personal terms with sunderland were below expectations and so here we are.

I am pie

Look Fabio, it's not you, it's me we tried and trial separation and it felt right. I know you want to try and make this work but i think in the long run it's better we stop hurting each other. I think we should go our separate ways and enjoy our lives without each other. We'll always have Swansea.

Brendo.

ps. Look at Iago, he's gone off home to Spain and it's taken years off him.

smileyj1987

PropJoe10 wrote: »

Gerrard has retired from international football. Good news for us:

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/166831-gerrard-reveals-england-retirement

It's actually good to see him retire now . He can now give Liverpool everything for the remainder of his career .

Francie Barrett

Brilliant news about Gerrard!

K-9

daithijjj wrote: »

When we signed players in 2011/12 we signed players with good stats.

Some proper sh1te players have good stats. Thats the problem with using stats in general.

Whatever about Downing and Adam, i remember lads in here telling me off for saying Jovanovic and Voronin were sh1te even before they joined, give them a chance i was told. They were a whole new level, well below what Adam and Downing were. People forget how bad we had it prior to them lads. In fairness, things had got that low near the end of G&H that signing a player that would improve us was cause for celebration. Fact is Downing and Adam did improve us from where we were.

Anyone remember Kenny walking through the door having to play Jovanovic and Poulsen away at Blackpool in a shop window situation?. Thats how bad it got, never forget it, as much as we'd like to. :pac:

Don't remind me, remember the pre season games for a couple of years, the most important thing was hoping Jova, Cole or Degen (if able to walk) and a whole list of others could play well in Norway or somewhere!

Knex*

Gerrard's being looking at a lot of the new lads hair, the Lallanas, Cans, and so on, and decided he was having a bit of that. He has a way to go yet, and there's a hint of Gordon Henderson off it, but I'm hoping it works for him and we can see him play at a high level for a while yet.

As mentioned, I think the retirement came two years too late, and it may warp some people's view of his contribution for England.

Knex*

daRobot wrote: »

Good ole' Gerrard - watch with volume :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVYk677vJU4

Washington Irving

James Pearce ‏@JamesPearceEcho
Loic Remy flying into Boston tonight to undergo medical and complete his £8.5m move from QPR. #LFC

Remy deal doesn't seem to be dependent on Borini going anyway.

daRobot

Knex. wrote: »

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Thanks mate, made a mess of that and deleted it

K-9

brevity wrote: »

Adam was a scapegoat for that seasons transfer activity. Much like Joe Allen was. Both players put in good performances but not regularly enough.

They also missed out on having Lucas around them as he was either injured or Gerrard was preferred over him.

I thought when we bought him Adam would be a good squad player to have, he was just over used and as pointed out, we'd him and Spearing to rely on. Got us to 2 cup finals so not all bad!

Cartman78 wrote: »

Was very very underwhelmed with the Downing and Adam signings, didn't really know a lot about Henderson at the time tbh and had hoped that if Carroll really knuckled down and applied himself he could be a useful asset upfront.

This year? Know zero about Can and Markovic tbh but they sound promising by all accounts; Lallana could be very good for us I think - has a much higher ceiling than Downing or Adams ever had imho.

Slightly bemused by the Lambert love in - seems a bit premature being that he hasn't kicked a ball in anger for us yet....when he cracks in a couple of injury time winners in front of the Kop he'll have earned his cult hero status

This is the thing about proven PL players, it isn't about the league they play in, its about the actual player. Lallana definitely looks to have more about him than a Downing type player, Lambert makes sense and he's a bargain, Remy similar though I'd share Kess's concerns. We have good attacking squad options, one good quality signing and it would be fine for me.

Ganymede Glow wrote: »

Pity Maxi Rodriguez wanted to go home, i'd have kept him no question about it.

I think we could have got another season for him, he'd have read Carrolls knock downs well, Bellamy was about the only one who did for us, even Suarez never really did.

Kess73 wrote: »

Think he is a very good squad buy. He looks a very clever player when the ball is played in to his feet, and he appeared to be very good at dropping deep to collect the ball with his back to goal. His link up play, with Lallana in particular, reminded me a hell of a lot of how Teddy Sheringham used to do it or, for even older heads, of how Kerry Dixon was able to bring midfoelders into the attacking third with hold up play and lay offs.

Think what impressed me the most about Lambert was his range of passing. Now he is no Alonso on that front, but he seems very comfortable on the ball and is well able to pick a pass be it short or long range.

Can see him working very well in allowing quick players like Markovic, Sterling, Lallana etc to run onto a pass as they break from deeper positions.

Yep, we don't really have a player like that. Sturridge is just ok at holding it up, Sterling can do it but I'd prefer him getting it and turning at pace, its what he's good at.

Just on the Southampton thing Lloyd was on about, yep, they lost a good few games last season but they drifted a bit near the end, the whole ownership thing probably didn't help. They still did well and gave a lot of better quality teams bother with their pressing, counter attacking style. Again it comes back to the quality of the players, Lallana looks quality and is versatile, a good sign.

Transfers are hard to call but it's about the right type of buys, Lallana and Lambert look fine to me. Markovic and Can would be the ones I'd worry about more mainly because of their youth. Remember the stats by Tomkins, getting 50% of transfers at pretty decent to a success is doing ok!

Knex*

daRobot wrote: »

Thanks mate, made a mess of that and deleted it

No worries! All you need is to use the end of the YouTube url, with the tags:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVYk677vJU4

(Obviously remove the spaces

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I am pie

Washington Irving wrote: »

Remy deal doesn't seem to be dependent on Borini going anyway.

If Borini doesn't go now he'll go in January. His self belief is admirable but his cards have been marked, he's a goner.