100200 shih wrote: » I drive 160 km daily to get to work, Galway - Clifden road. I leave home every morning at 6.45 am, get into the office early,great no cyclist. I finish at 5 pm & then I have the joy of been stuck be-hide at least 5 set of people on bikes on any given sunny day. Normally in 2/3/4 having a great chat going about 5/10 km in a 100 km area. My drive take 1.15 hr each way as the road are all bends ( no cycle lanes ), with some of these road just able to have 2 cars on them . So when you come across a number of cyclist & you just want to get home and they are having a great chat while there is a pile of people trying to get home, I find this very annoying. Can people not wait to have there leisure cycles to at least people get home from work.Lots of people have to commute to work so I know that I am not the only one that gets fed up because the 75 min drive can turn into 90 mins because of cyclist. ( That is 15 mins *5 = 1.15 hours less time with my kids a week ) Last Thursday evening, just outside the city I saw ahead a really big women cycling really really slow, not in control of her bike , going to middle of the road to the side of the road in & out of traffic with 1 hand on the bike without looking around her. I was over taking here & she was on the phone has a great chat with about 20 cars stuck be-hide her. :mad::mad::mad:
No Pants wrote: » The insolence of those people! Going for a cycle without even running it by you first to see if it would cause you inconvenience.[/QUOTE Now that's a silly statement , I was suggesting that when people are going for there leisure cycles which people are entitle to, that they may let the people get home form work before they slow everyone down,
100200 shih wrote: » No Pants wrote: » The insolence of those people! Going for a cycle without even running it by you first to see if it would cause you inconvenience.[/QUOTE Now that's a silly statement , I was suggesting that when people are going for there leisure cycles which people are entitle to, that they may let the people get home form work before they slow everyone down, Steady now! No place for common sense like that her. Cyclists have the right to hold up as much traffic as they like. Now, if a farmer on a tractor does it..they have to pull in, as it's an offence, and yup, illegal..
robertxxx wrote: » 1/ 10 people on bikes.2/ Makes no sense to point one.3/ if a bike has peddles then this is a lie.4/ You either live too close to your job or you cannot drive properly.
Tail Docker wrote: » I noticed the Dublin city manager that spannered the Garf Books gig rides a bike.
RainyDay wrote: » I find it very annoying when I'm cycling through Dublin on my way to work, and the roads are full of cars crawling along at 5-10 kpmh. I struggle to get past them, usually filtering on the inside, or sometimes passing on the outside. But it really slows down my cycle. It's so rude and inconsiderate of them. Wouldn't you think that they'd travel at different times to me, or just get rid of their cars and get on bikes so that they wouldn't hold me up?
Tail Docker wrote: » 100200 shih wrote: » Steady now! No place for common sense like that her. Cyclists have the right to hold up as much traffic as they like. Now, if a farmer on a tractor does it..they have to pull in, as it's an offence, and yup, illegal.. Tractor & buses always pull in when there is a stream of cars be-hide them but cyclist do not,
100200 shih wrote: » Steady now! No place for common sense like that her. Cyclists have the right to hold up as much traffic as they like. Now, if a farmer on a tractor does it..they have to pull in, as it's an offence, and yup, illegal..
UCDVet wrote: » I know this won't be popular - but a lot of people who cycle aren't actually helping the environment. (not really directing this at you - just an interesting follow-up). They compare the CO2 cost of driving their car and compare it to 'zero' - which is nonsense. The bicycle needs to be powered and people are really inefficient at powering things. The energy needed to move the bicycle comes from the food we eat. Most of us, who aren't vegetarians who only eat locally grown food - goes to the store, buys whatever, and eats it. The environmental impact of eating meat is quite substantial and the extra calories required to power the bicycle aren't magically free. When you include the cost of food / calories burned - cycling sucks. An electric vehicle can be vastly superior, same with public transport.http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/5861/is-cycling-worse-for-the-environment-than-driving-to-work-if-you-need-to-take-a That's still an oversimplification since it's avoiding the manufacturing cost to the environment. If you have a car AND a bicycle and eat a 'normal' diet - sorry pal, you aren't helping the environment by cycling to work. If you skip buying a car because you have a bicycle instead - then yeah - you're doing some good. But if you aren't able to completely ditch the car, you need to go vegetarian (and focus on locally grown food). And you still need to log a LOT of km on the bicycle before you make up for the environmental cost of the manufacturing process / transport process of your bicycle. I cycle a lot - I'm not trying to discourage anyone from cycling. But I do have some very smug friends who think they are helping the environment, but they aren't. Hell, they'll even go for 2-hour long drives, with their bicycles, so they can spend the weekend riding in some remote location.....and well, I don't want to ruin their fun, but that's all it is. Fun. They aren't doing the environment any favours - but they sure like to act like they are.
Tail Docker wrote: » 100200 shih wrote: » Steady now! No place for common sense like that her. Cyclists have the right to hold up as much traffic as they like. Now, if a farmer on a tractor does it..they have to pull in, as it's an offence, and yup, illegal.. Thats the law! its a cu*t isnt it:)
100200 shih wrote: » Ill explain it again as you do not seem to understand, my return trip from work to my home is 160 km or 100 miles per day which take 1.15 hours to drive EACH WAY because its is old country road with lots of bends & no hard shoulders. No by passes here. I live 80 km from work as I have explain already. So each day i am delayed by cyclist by 15 min & I work 5 days a week then that = 1.15 hr per week. The rest of your statements do not make any sense , so I am not going to bother answering them. I am like everyone else entitle to my opinion.
robertxxx wrote: » No need i didnt read the first reply, save your ink!
robertxxx wrote: » Tail Docker wrote: » Thats the law! its a cu*t isnt it:) Illegal now according to statute.ie… 2011 not the old 1964 act cyclist keep quoting! article 47 (as amended by Regulation 3 of the Road Traffic (Traffic and Parking) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 2011 ( S.I. No. 673 of 2011 )) the following: “Pedal cyclists 47. (1) A pedal cyclist shall not drive a pedal cycle on a roadway in such a manner as to result in more than 2 pedal cyclists driving abreast, save when overtaking other pedal cyclists, and then only if to do so will not endanger, inconvenience or obstruct other traffic or pedestrians. (2) Pedal cyclists on a roadway shall cycle in single file when overtaking other traffic.
Tail Docker wrote: » Thats the law! its a cu*t isnt it:)
magicbastarder wrote: » here's a fact that will blow motorist's minds - the time you are held up by cyclists is far, far, far outweighed by the time you are held up by other motorists. and in fact, the biggest holdup to those other motorists is - wait for it - motorists like you. i'm constantly amazed and bemused by people's complaints about being held up by cyclists for a grand total of probably three or four minutes a week, when they spend several hours a week staring at the back of someone else's car, and breathing their exhaust gases.
Tail Docker wrote: » Much as cyclists may proclaim the benefits, have a goo at the stats for cyclists seriously injured on the roads. It has soared with the resurgence of leisure cycling. If you're cycling for improved health, you might have picked a dangerous way to go about it.
Compared with residents who drive, those using the city’s bike-sharing system experienced an annual increase in 0.03 deaths from traffic accidents and 0.13 deaths from air pollution. However, as a result of increased physical activity, 12.46 deaths were avoided annually, meaning that overall, the program helped prevent 12.28 deaths per year. - See more at: http://journalistsresource.org/studies/environment/transportation/bike-sharing-health-risks-benefits#sthash.mDtDGxI2.dpuf
dubscottie wrote: » You try getting stuck behind some cyclists whilst climbing a hill. Do they move over… No.. But I have said all this already!
papu wrote: » It really isn't any cyclists fault that you chose to live 80km from your place of work ..
Spook_ie wrote: » Just a snippet from a debate about motor taxation Those of you that think cyclists will never be taxed, please don't have nightmares tonight! The technology is there to do it cheaply
Jawgap wrote: » No, that quote means they're going to bump up motor tax, rather than set up a whole new taxation system. Easier just to screw us using the existing taxes.
Spook_ie wrote: » Won't be able to if you've given up the car to commute on a bike, don't have nightmares BTW How many people thought they'd never tax water?
UCDVet wrote: » That's true - but only because the number of motorists greatly exceeds the number of cyclists. The 'per person' delay for bicycles seems much greater.
magicbastarder wrote: » http://journalistsresource.org/studies/environment/transportation/bike-sharing-health-risks-benefits so cycling increased the number of deaths per year (for the barcelona cycling scheme) by 0.16 for negative effects, but reduced it by 12.46 deaths per year for positive effects; so a benefit of nearly 100 times greater than the drawbacks.
We assumed that 90% of these users (n=25 426) were new cyclists who had shifted travel mode from cars and that their current Bicing trips replaced the same trips previously made by a car
10% changing from cars, 60% from public transport, and 30% from walking, based on figures in a UN report
We estimated the savings in carbon dioxide emissions following guidelines and emission factors provided by the Catalan Office of Climate Change.26 These values were calibrated to the Barcelona vehicle fleet (number of vehicles using diesel or petrol, and engine efficiency).27
Data on shifts in mode of travel as a result of the Bicing initiative could not be found, but using an alternative scenario with 60% of Bicing users having shifted from public transport, 30% from walking, and 10% from car, had little effect on the number of deaths avoided (10.46 v 12.46) (see web extra table 9).
