The Dagda wrote: » It's reported in RT that Putin's plane was in the vicinity of the Malaysian jet when it was shot down. Being shot down by mistake when the real target is Putin seems a more likely theory than some of the clutching at straws here.
Daithi 1 wrote: » Some juice for yas... This is straight from the Corr ! "Malaysia airlines Flight 17 first flew 17 July 1997 until 17 July 2014 when it was downed 17 years later. There is an occult significance to this for those in the know"
This speech was given on January 14, 2014. She refers to the G7 as having something to do with it. On that date, there was no G7, it was the G8. It was not until March 24, 2014 that Russia was kicked out of the G8 thereby making it once again the G7. Another example that everything is planned out in advance by the NWO!
shanered wrote: » Just seen that aircraft had been shot down. Was thinking about who done it, the Russians? The Ukrainians? But here is a thought, also seeing that Israeli ground invasion of Gaza strip started just after under the cover of this flight terrorist attack, could it be possible that some special ops section of the Israeli army taken out the flight as a media cover for their invasion. Maybe its all a coincidence, but I was thinking along the lines of who benifits from the crash, and I believe Israels public relations will be quite happy to have world news covering the flight disaster rather than the invasion... What does anybody else think?
murpho999 wrote: » What sort of warped mind would think Israel shot this plane down? How would they get such large weapons into Ukraine? How can people say they want to deflect attention when the story of Gaza is getting huge coverage. Also, Israel has invaded Gaza before without any other deflection plans. It's a very poor conspiracy theory.
youtube! wrote: » http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=29535
Beano wrote: » we're not bringing that up again are we? that article is from march and relates to the plane that disappeared not the plane shot down. In fact it doesnt really relate to either plane. Its just an ex malaysia airlines planes that they sold off and was stored in israel by the buyers.
RiteofPassage wrote: » The US has the most to gain from this, they have a proven track record of downing civilian planes. Shepherd Smith was literally foaming at the mouth on Fox. Jumping to all sorts of conclusions before any facts were established.
youtube! wrote: » maybe but that's one helluva coincidence....
Seanachai wrote: » Another possibility, "Military air traffic controllers in internal communication acknowledged the military was involved, and some military chatter said they did not know where the order to shoot down the plane originated from. Obviously it happened after a series of errors, since the very same plane was escorted by two Ukrainian fighter jets until 3 minutes before it disappeared from radar."http://www.eturbonews.com/48079/ukraine-air-traffic-controller-suggests-kiev-military-shot-down-
RiteofPassage wrote: » In my opinion its the Airlines fault for flying there. MA must be really incompetent. The land they were flying over wasn't in Ukrainian control, and they hardly went to rebels for permission to fly over it.
degrassinoel wrote: » is it possible they were flying around bad weather?
buried wrote: » The media propaganda slant is very strong in the reporting of this terrible incident. I watched it on tv as it broke and was amazed at the speed of the judgement laid out as to who was responsible with no actual evidence or facts. On sky news, literally 20 minutes into its coverage they were reporting the unconfirmed angle, but reporting as total fact, that it was Russian backed separatists as the culprits, claiming they had definite evidence that Russia was directly responsible but the evidence is really just a bunch of unidentifiable Russian men discussing an event??
RiteofPassage wrote: » Of course they don't care about the family's. Its about winning the game, changing the game, and counting the dollars. Putin- Signed new deal with Cuba Established BRIC bank. Providing global leadership to China and South America. Fought coup in Ukraine. Established alternative source of information RT. Gave refuge to Snowden. The banksters need to act, the BRIC bank was the last straw. Anglo/Jewish control of world is threatened. Expect the body-count to rise.
youtube! wrote: » Ukraine carried this out themselves it's obvious, they want NATO to help them against Putin!
Harold Weiss wrote: » When I saw John McCain stealing headlines to blame Putin in relation to this airline crash, I knew exactly who was behind it. The same people that wanted US to bomb Iran, Syria, Iraq and Libya. The same people that wanted US troops deployed in certain African nations like Nigeria and Uganda. The same people that wanted to arm Ukrainian military against Russia...
A simple search reveals that MH17 was in fact diverted 200km north from the usual flight path taken by Malaysian Airlines in the previous days – and plunged right in the middle of a war zone. Why? What sort of communication had MH17 received from the Kiev air control tower? Kiev has been mute about it. Yet the answer would be simple, had Kiev released the Air Traffic Control recording of the tower talking to flight MH17; Malaysia did it after flight MH370 disappeared forever. It won’t happen; SBU security confiscated it. So much for getting an undoctored explanation as to why MH17 was off its path, and what the pilots saw and said before the explosion
Elmer Blooker wrote: » Obama calls for more sanctions but as we know the EU (especially Germany) are reluctant to impose sanctions so less than 24 hours after Obama's call - guess what? .... a plane of mostly EU citizens is shot down by "Putin's gang" When I saw Obama exploiting this Malaysian air tragedy for propaganda purposes while the wreckage was still smouldering on the ground I have serious doubts about who was behind it. The Kiev government insist they are 100% certain that separatists armed by Putin shot down the plane while at the same time accusing the separatists of "tampering" with evidence? Is this not a contradiction as the Kiev gov needs no evidence? Not a single word from Kiev air traffic control either? Extremely odd!
