myshirt wrote: » Treehorn2077, I don't see the issue? You are long term unemployed, the state have been paying you during that period, you haven't found a job unfortunately, and here is an opportunity for you. There is no scam. No one out to get you.
Treehorn2077 wrote: » Out of curousity Arquinsiel, what did they say when you refused to sign up? You mentioned interviews you had coming up, did they see that as a proper reason not to stop your payments? I ask because if I get a job between now and when/if I start this scheme, I'm taking it.
myshirt wrote: » You won't be working for €1 an hour. You will be working for €10.40 an hour (208/20 = €10.40).
toadettee wrote: » Damned if you do and damned if you don't seems to be the problem with these schemes. I have been on it 6 months and my supervisor is more than accommodating. But I found a job on job bridge I would prefer and there's no way on this planet the department of social protection is going to let me get off tus. So I have to see my year out in a job I'm gaining nothing from, to go back on the live register in January with a cut social welfare payment now I have drawn attention to myself. I had my reservations about these schemes from the start but of course was threatened with cutting off my dole payment if I ticked no. Before this I went back to college for 4 years rather than do nothing and worked part time the whole duration. I just wish there was someone I could speak to in the department who even cared. Again can't fault the tus supervisors in my experience they do a great job, their hands are tied.
MouseTail wrote: » Are you sure about this? I would find that very strange.
toadettee wrote: » But I found a job on job bridge I would prefer and there's no way on this planet the department of social protection is going to let me get off tus.
Treehorn2077 wrote: » Wow, thats quite a statement to be told from day 1 you aren't going to be hired or kept on after your time is up. No wonder some people were miserable, I'd be pissed off too. This is exactly what I was saying about being exploited, after 1 year you get dumped for another. No chance of a job, no chance of promotion, or decent wage... will someone please tell me how someone is supposed to be thankful for that suitation? Can I ask what you got of it? Were you kept on? What course options were you told about, this is something I would be interested in? I'm aware its 19.5 hours a week, that's half a working week they expect you to do for free, hardly what I'd call fair pay. Not much of an incentive to go looking for part time work either if it has to be less than 19.5 hours, seeing as they will adjust your JA down. If I find a job while I'm on TUS they can shove their scheme up their arse, and I'll be more than happy to tell them that.
Treehorn2077 wrote: » Firstly thanks to those who replied to my questions, much appreciated. Out of curousity Arquinsiel, what did they say when you refused to sign up? You mentioned interviews you had coming up, did they see that as a proper reason not to stop your payments? I ask because if I get a job between now and when/if I start this scheme, I'm taking it.@Myshirt: I'm well aware I was picked at random and that "no one is out to get me", paranoia is not something I suffer from. My issue however is being forced into doing 20 hours a week of free labour, for little over 1 euro an hour, under threat of having my JA cut if I refuse. Don't get me wrong I'd take a decent paid job right now if it was offered, but realistically my chances of getting anything permanent from this scheme seem pretty slim. Quite simply, why would any employer hire me at minimum wage when he can dump me after my 12 months are up and replace me with another person fresh on the scheme? Business isn't my strong point, but I know all about saving money and cutting costs.@fiestywonder Your discription of people on the dole as those "who sit around all day watching TV" is both naive and offensive. I've faced that same judgemental and narrowminded point of view from people when I was first made unemployed. Things like "you must be so bored" or "how do you fill the time" really annoy me. Sure there are those who choose to sit on their arse all day, but I'M NOT ONE OF THEM! The fact is I've been filling my time as much as I can, I'm out of the house most of the day, rarely watch TV, and have been attending various courses since I started on the dole. It's how you choose to use your time on the dole that matters, I chose to use it wisely. Prehaps you wouldn't have lost your dignity if you didn't sit around all day watching tv and acutally did something with your time.@Pixie326 thanks for the input Pixie. Can I ask, what kind of placements did they offer you? It may have been that those you found doing the minimum and complaining, may have got a worse job than you. I'd imagine not all involved are going to be placed where they'ed like to be. It's been my experience lately that work experience counts for **** on your CV, as most of the time they never bother to read them. I have the skills and experience, but when an unpaid intern is filling that position for nothing, why would an employer pay to hire me? All the experience in the world can't match free labour. You sound quite fortunate in your placement, I hope I'll be as lucky.
Treehorn2077 wrote: » Firstly thanks to those who replied to my questions, much appreciated. Out of curousity Arquinsiel, what did they say when you refused to sign up? You mentioned interviews you had coming up, did they see that as a proper reason not to stop your payments? I ask because if I get a job between now and when/if I start this scheme, I'm taking it.
Treehorn2077 wrote: » Firstly thanks to those who replied to my questions, much appreciated.@fiestywonder Your discription of people on the dole as those "who sit around all day watching TV" is both naive and offensive. I've faced that same judgemental and narrowminded point of view from people when I was first made unemployed. Things like "you must be so bored" or "how do you fill the time" really annoy me. Sure there are those who choose to sit on their arse all day, but I'M NOT ONE OF THEM! The fact is I've been filling my time as much as I can, I'm out of the house most of the day, rarely watch TV, and have been attending various courses since I started on the dole. It's how you choose to use your time on the dole that matters, I chose to use it wisely. Prehaps you wouldn't have lost your dignity if you didn't sit around all day watching tv and acutally did something with your time. .
Deleted User wrote: » I was able to work with no constraints and I wanted him to see that, instead of having him view me as a person who sits on the couch watching TV all day. That might be ok for other people but not for me.
Treehorn2077 wrote: » I got a letter today from the social welfare "asking" if I'd be interested in going on a TUS scheme, seeing as I'd never heard of it before I did some research, which lead me here. Been reading some of the comments and posts by people who have been on it and there are quite a lot of mixed results, that I can see. A few things did strike me as I read through the comments some people posted. Firstly some people seem to think that losing their job and being on the dole is some kind of social stigma, and go on to say how wonderful it is to get their "dignity" back. Since when did losing a job rob you of your dignity? I for one have no problem with my dignity or self confidence or anything of that nature and I'm just as unemployed as these people. It really says a lot about their view of themselves in society if all they measure a person by is the job they hold. The second thing I noticed, and I'm not alone in pointing this out, is the number of glowing reviews of TUS placements by some people on here. Now before I get accused of anything, I'd like to point out that I've no doubt that some people are genuine in their positive experiences of TUS and their posts here. However, I do feel like some of "glowing" reviews are just a tad too good to be true, and feel a little fake to me. Almost as if someone under the employ of a certain Government Department or youth wing of a certain party were writing them under the guise of a partisipant. I personally feel this is another cynical scam, just like job-bridge, albeit with 30 euros less than that each week. A source of unlimited free labour for companies, to exploit the unemployed into filling, under threat of getting their money cut off. It remains to be seen however how my own suitation will pan out. Obviously I have to accept this "offer" if I am to keep my JA payment, my concern is that I will be put into a suitation where I will get nothing out of this, in terms of training, experience, etc. And simply find myself right back where I started 12 months from now. I do have a few questions for Galway based people who were on the TUS scheme: 1) What range of jobs were you offered? 2) Were they mostly city or rural based? I ask because I have to rely on public transport 3) Was your experience positive or negative? 4) Did you have any issues signing back onto JA afterwards? Thanks in advance for your help
rsole1 wrote: » What is your job, and how much is the salary?
Static_Jak wrote: » So do we have 4 weeks holidays in total? And do we just let our employer know or do we have to get in contact with TUS when we take any holidays?
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