seamus wrote: » This is a nice catch, kudos, but it doesn't seem that simple. Employers, banks and landlords frequently do ask for and store your PPSN, yet this is not illegal. So clearly the social welfare acts is not the be-all and end-all. In any case, I would fully expect that this has been or very soon will be accommodated for in law. And they'll have a PSO, which the local council don't. Failure to correct problems in a timely manner will result in fines for Irish Water, whereas the council can ignore it basically as long as they want. One thing which so many people seem to have missed is that access to install water meters has been provided in every new development built since the early 2000s and maybe earlmeter.Those guys digging holes in the paths are only doing so for older properties. Every government and local council for the last ten years has known full well that water charges were coming in eventually (our water supply model is unsustainable in any economy). It was just a game of pass the parcel and the music happened to stop when Fine Gael got into power. There is no political party who can claim they had nothing to do with this. Even your local SF councillors would have been well aware this was going on.
Pwindedd wrote: » Because it's a unique identifier for the allowances. It's not the PIN number to your soul.
OldRio wrote: » You were doing so well but over egged it. The health system in this country is appalling. The NHS is a system that works. It is treat like a political football in the UK. It may have faults but my God I wish we had it here. 'Services are better' ? In Ireland? Pray tell.
Frank Lee Midere wrote: » Everybody thinks the NHS is better in the UK because it's an uncriticisable religion. Everybody hates the HSE because Irish people love to hate their own stuff. Statistically they look similar.
OldRio wrote: » IMHO the NHS is the better service.
ankaragucu wrote: » Been reading on social media that Irish water installing meters in your home is a bit like Sky turning up and installing their dish and system in your home?If you didnt consent to it you dont have to pay.The key being "no consent no contract" . . . . . IS this total guff?
delahuntv wrote: » Surely this is a good reason to give Irish water your full support - they will invest and have a lot more expert to correct issues than any local council. (I used to live in US and also UK - so am well used to water charges and property taxes at multiples of what we are being charged here!)
SEPT 23 1989 wrote: » What happens when Irish Water is sold off in the usual corrupt way in the future what happens to all the personal information held by them?
Frank Lee Midere wrote: » It probably will because there is an incentive to maintain the service now.
fxotoole wrote: » You mean Fianna Fáil, right? The party that signed us up to water charges when they went looking for a bailout?
ankaragucu wrote: » Its not so much the 'in the house or under the path outside your house' argument here.I'm taking it as when it becomes a private company it will be providing a service you never asked for or consented to.So if you refuse to acknowledge them at all, once they become privatised you'll have an argument.Of course you may get cut off in the meantime! Also as a private company providing such a service, by EU law it should have competition.It cant have a monopoly.It would have to go like the bin collections. Can anyone remember the last time ANYTHING was done right in this country?!
flutered wrote: » the troika had a press release which said that the gov did not have to impliment both the lpt and the water usage tax, the gov in keeping with their motto of beng good europeans did both.
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: » However, I think that the whole thing is a step too far, considering my parents haven't been able to drink their water supply for the past year due to Cryptosporidium.
Hermy wrote: » Could they bring a case to the small claims court under the Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act? Or could they simply refuse to pay on the grounds that the goods [in this case water] are not of merchantable quality?
tayto lover wrote: » Best little boys in the class :pac:
ankaragucu wrote: » I cant believe how incredibly gullible and plain thick some people still are in thinking that lpt and water tax has and will be used to improve and upgrade infrastructure. How fuking stupid are you people?
Pwindedd wrote: » I am starting to think I must be the only person in Ireland who thinks that we should pay for the water we use ??? I'm genuinely bewildered that so many people think that this utility should be free.
Geuze wrote: » There's nothing free. It costs 1 - 1.2bn pa for water. Taxes covered that up until now. In 2013 the State collected 59bn and spent 70bn, leaving a fiscal deficit of 11.5bn. This must fall. So taxes must rise, and spending must fall. Both are happening. The LPT and water charges are part of the tax increases.
suicide_circus wrote: » Since, as Simon Covney points out, we have been paying for water and water infrastructure via general taxation for years, I look forward to the logical and inevitable reduction in general taxation once water metering comes into full effect.
Fr. Ned wrote: » It's all spin and lies from the current junta though. BTW, if we weren't paying billions in interest on loans taken on to bailout private gamblers and speculators we wouldn't have a deficit at all.
