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Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 mod warning linked in OP 26/07

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klose

A midfield with hendo and vidal in it, and not a single blade was not covered that day.

Not that that will happen in any case...

[Deleted User]

Vidal quoted as being happy enough with Juventus so he might not go anywhere. Very good player.

Thought he was younger than 27 actually

Washington Irving

Tello has joined Porto on a two year loan, so we can put that constant link to bed for now.

googled eyes

Edit: not my actual tweet

taidghbaby

We should really start selling our best players to teams in the premiership!

redbaron_99

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

I'm still struggling to see why Vidal would go there.

Turtyturd

taidghbaby wrote: »

We should really start selling our best players to teams in the premiership!

Preferably when they are in the last year of their contract.

5starpool

googled eyes wrote: »

Edit: not my actual tweet

Had to quote and fix to see your image

Soft Falling Rain

redbaron_99 wrote: »

inane gif

Cute.

Here's a couple of reasons against:

1. No CL football
2. Other top clubs in a more stable position.
3. Seemingly one of the most coveted midfielders in the world right now who should have the pick of where he wants to go.

Manchester United are the most successful team in PL history but are very much in a transitional phase. Vidal could well end up going there, but in my humble opinion if he does, the monetary factor will the be significant variable.

redbaron_99

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

Cute. Here's a couple of reasons against:

1. No CL football
2. Other top clubs in a more stable position.
3. Seemingly one of the most coveted midfielders in the world right now who should have the pick of where he wants to go.

Manchester United are the most successful team in PL history but are very much in a transitional phase. Vidal could well end up going there, but in my humble opinion if he does, the monetary factor will the be significant variable.

1. No CL Football for one season isn't the end of the world.
2. United's future is very much stable after signing MASSIVE commercial deals recently.
3. He probably does have his pick of top clubs.
4. money being the significant factor certainly doesn't remove City and Chelsea from the equation. Far from it.
5. it's not clear yet where he's going (if he is going)

K-9

Shame Moyes wasn't still there! Van Gaal makes up for a big part of that, but even then I think United are finding out CL football is an important factor for the top players.

taidghbaby

Turtyturd wrote: »

Preferably when they are in the last year of their contract.

We could be the TK Maxx of the PL! Bargains everywhere!

Nuri Sahin

Don't fall on the hook.

Same (type of) poster laughs at us for thinking we could sign any top class talent without Champions League football, saying it's a must.

We get Champions League football, and same (type of) posters laugh at for thinking we can't sign any top class player WITH Champions League football, saying it's now not as important hence why they can sign top class players like Shaw and Herrera.

Soft Falling Rain

redbaron_99 wrote: »

1. No CL Football for one season isn't the end of the world.
2. United's future is very much stable after signing MASSIVE commercial deals recently.
3. He probably does have his pick of top clubs.
4. money being the significant factor certainly doesn't remove City and Chelsea from the equation. Far from it.
5. it's not clear yet where he's going (if he is going)

Why though, if you're in a position like Vidal, take the risk of assuming Man United will instantly get back into the CL? Why bother when you could walk into any club of your choosing who are regular CL fixtures?

Commerical and revenue stability does not equate to or guarantee on field success.

If the Shaw transfer rumours are to be believed, Manchester United can still very much blow anyone out of the water in offering the best financial package (Chelsea bowed out once they realised how much Man U were offering in both fee and wage).

Nuri Sahin

By the by, Manolas is available for £8-10M apparently.

The Mig

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

Why though, if you're in a position like Vidal, take the risk of assuming Man United will instantly get back into the CL? Why bother when you could walk into any club of your choosing who are regular CL fixtures?

Commerical and revenue stability does not equate to or guarantee on field success.

If the Shaw transfer rumours are to be believed, Manchester United can still very much blow anyone out of the water in offering the best financial package (Chelsea bowed out once they realised how much Man U were offering in both fee and wage).

Bout time they start spending the Ronaldo money :pac:

Rayne Wooney

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

Why though, if you're in a position like Vidal, take the risk of assuming Man United will instantly get back into the CL? Why bother when you could walk into any club of your choosing who are regular CL fixtures?

Commerical and revenue stability does not equate to or guarantee on field success.

If the Shaw transfer rumours are to be believed, Manchester United can still very much blow anyone out of the water in offering the best financial package (Chelsea bowed out once they realised how much Man U were offering in both fee and wage).

He is quoted as saying United are one of the biggest clubs in the world, maybe he just wants to play for United. Oil money clubs can still pay silly money, as we've seen with Di Maria, who probably would have come to United had PSG not bid way over the odds for him, and he will likely go there now.

redbaron_99

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

Why though, if you're in a position like Vidal, take the risk of assuming Man United will instantly get back into the CL? Why bother when you could walk into any club of your choosing who are regular CL fixtures?

Commerical and revenue stability does not equate to or guarantee on field success.

If the Shaw transfer rumours are to be believed, Manchester United can still very much blow anyone out of the water in offering the best financial package (Chelsea bowed out once they realised how much Man U were offering in both fee and wage).

Maybe he believes that United's team with Van Gaal in charge is good enough to get back into the CL.

United are regular CL fixtures. This is the first season in many years we have been absent.

Commercial success and revenue stability provide a very solid base for any club/business.

Nothing in this world guarantees on field success.

What Shaw rumours? From what I've read he chose united back in January. Before the details of the deal were decided.

Washington Irving

Anyone know when the Champions League draw is?

MD1990

So we loan Aspas to Sevilla but we are not getting Moreno. We sell Suarez to Barca & Sanchez goes to Arsenal.
I think we should get a new negotiator asap.

NoelJ

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Maybe he believes that United's team with Van Gaal in charge is good enough to get back into the CL.

United are regular CL fixtures. This is the first season in many years we have been absent.

Commercial success and revenue stability provide a very solid base for any club/business.

Nothing in this world guarantees on field success.

What Shaw rumours? From what I've read he chose united back in January. Before the details of the deal were decided.

The thing though is why move this year when United don't have Champions League. As you said they're a regular fixture in it. I can move next year when they probably will be back in it.

If I'm worried United won't sign me next year, the chances are they won't play me next year when they sign someone better. If I want the money, I'll move but I'm not sure how motivated players are by money. Some are but I don't think the majority notice the difference between 100k and 150k.

punk_one82

MD1990 wrote: »

So we loan Aspas to Sevilla but we are not getting Moreno. We sell Suarez to Barca & Sanchez goes to Arsenal.
I think we should get a new negotiator asap.

The outcome of the Moreno deal is still unclear.

Re: Sanchez - Barca can't make him go to a club he doesn't want to join. I'd say they tried and he said no. Case closed.

redbaron_99

NoelJ wrote: »

The thing though is why move this year when United don't have Champions League. As you said they're a regular fixture in it. I can move next year when they probably will be back in it.

If I'm worried United won't sign me next year, the chances are they won't play me next year when they sign someone better. If I want the money, I'll move but I'm not sure how motivated players are by money. Some are but I don't think the majority notice the difference between 100k and 150k.

Maybe the majority, or even some of them, are not solely motivated by playing in the CL. It's not the be all and end all of football. Sure, he might not even leave Italy. Enjoy your evening.

klose

Christ if we cant agree a deal on moreno and go for bertrand it will be bitterly disappointing. Back in the cl and we are aiming for a lad who was on fcukin loan at villa last year.

Edit: apparently the article says we will switch our attention to other targets including bertrand. What the fcuk are we at, loan them a player they want and still cant hammer out a deal.

5starpool

Utd in their first year out of the CL is at least as attractive as LFC in their first year back in the CL even aside from wage considerations imo.

I hope it's a longer absence for them of course but I don't think it will be.

citytillidie

Washington Irving wrote: »

Anyone know when the Champions League draw is?

August 28th

Mickalus

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014%E2%80%9315_UEFA_Champions_League#Round_and_draw_dates

Nice table there for the Champs league fixtures and draw dates.

MD1990

punk_one82 wrote: »

The outcome of the Moreno deal is still unclear.

Re: Sanchez - Barca can't make him go to a club he doesn't want to join. I'd say they tried and he said no. Case closed.

Moreno deal is dead according to The Echo.
Looks like we are going for Ben Davies as we have had a 8m bid rejected.

Nuri Sahin

Stench of Dani Alves MK II over Moreno. Either we're squabbling over payment structure or it's we're underbidding yet again by a few million which would secure of the most promising young full backs in football.

Slattsy

Has there been a youtube clip of all the Markovic 'best bits' that make him look unbelievable posted yet?