greenflash wrote: » Hamas fire their (admittedly sh1t) rockets from schools, hospitals and residential apartment blocks, knowing that Israel will track the launch sites and return fire. Rather than protecting their fellow Palestinians or evacuating the areas, Hamas wait for the Israeli strikes with cameras at the ready, so they can put pictures of dying babies on the internet as soon as possible. ..............
dj jarvis wrote: » come on Makikomi - send in the blue berets between Hamass and the IDF and you have south Lebanon circa 1980 all over again - not sure the Irish have the stomach for burying their boys , just so the IDF and Israeli backed groups can use the Irish as target practice becasue , we all know , it will be the Irish put in the most dangerous positions
Guillermo Faithful Tractor wrote: » Well we were a target for all sides, both Israeli, Christian and Muslim. Speaking of which, you do know who the longest held kidnap victim in Lebanon is... You probably don't, its an Irish lad ~ kidnapped by a Palestinian faction. But disregarding him, because I know he will be. You haven't given me an answer, but I suspect I've provided you with one ~ why hasn't there been louder calls for a UN protection force on the Gaza/Israel/Egyptian border?. Yes, I suspect its an Israeli mistrust of the UN but in equal measure I suspect its a mistrust of Hamas who are afraid of a UN probe into their activities, although that could be negociated out of a UN mandate to allow Hamas free reign over its subjects.
dj jarvis wrote: » can you put up a MOD approved list of conflicts that fit into your narrow view
biko wrote: » I don't speak for the Ministry Of Defence.
davmol wrote: » So,the isralies had some of their citizens murdered and as usual have to kill 10-20 palestinians for every 1 israelie they lost.Scores of innocents will be murdered including a few littel girls already killed and Garth brooks gets teh headline of each newspaper. what kind of world is this that a plonker who sings sh1t songs can get the headlines while innocent people are murdered by the Israeli war machine?!1:mad:
dj jarvis wrote: » you are dead right , i did not know of this story ,any links? and as for giving you an answer ? you never asked me a question , i asked your opinion. but i would be correct in inferring that Israeli backed militia and IDF in south Lebanon killed more Irish UN troops than any other affiliated side. i have heard this mentioned by past members of the PDF who were stationed in camp shamrock , not excluding the PLO and as you said , the kidnapping
A breakthrough has finally been achieved in a 20-year investigation into the disappearance of an Irish soldier in Lebanon. Kevin Joyce has been 'missing presumed dead' since April 1981 - the United Nations' only missing-in-action 'blue beret'. The Inisheer-born private was kidnapped from his UN observation post in south Lebanon by a Palestinian faction a year before the Israelis invaded the region. Until now, those behind the abduction and suspected murder of the soldier, who was 19 at the time, have refused to admit responsibility. However, a spokesman for the Irish Defence Forces has confirmed that talks are under way aimed at finding Joyce's remains. The Irish battalion of Unifil has only seven months left to find the missing soldier's remains - the unit finally pulls out of Lebanon in November. 'Negotiations are still going on,' he said. 'There has been contact with a number of groups. The Irish battalion are dealing with this.' The battalion is working with the Maronite Bishop of Tyre and the Lebanese Minister for Missing and Displaced Persons, Senator Mirwan Hamadi. It is understood that Palestinians from refugee camps in south Lebanon have agreed to discuss the whereabouts of Joyce's remains - the first time anyone has admitted knowledge about the missing soldier. John Laffery, president of the army's union, PDFORRA, travelled to south Lebanon with Joyce's family last week to oversee the investigation into his disappearance. 'This is a festering sore for the Defence Forces,' he said. 'Every soldier that has served in Lebanon over the past 21 years owes to Kevin Joyce that we do everything to find him. Talks are under way and we hope his remains can be found before the Irish battalion pulls out in November. 'All the Joyce family want is to take Kevin's remains back to Ireland so he can be given a Christian burial on Inisheer.' Joyce's comrade, Hugh Doherty, was shot dead during the raid on their post near the village of Dyar Ntar on 27 April 1981. Pte Doherty, who had just turned 20, was shot three times in the back. Joyce meanwhile, according to UN intelligence reports, was taken to a Palestinian refugee camp in Tyre. He was shot dead a few weeks later following a gun battle between Palestinians and UN soldiers in south Lebanon. The shoot-out at Deir Amis between the Palestinians and Fijian blue berets sealed Joyce's fate. The young Irish solder was killed in retaliation for the deaths of several Palestinian militiamen. Further investigations by Irish UN officers over the following 12 months established that a Lebanese man working for a Palestinian faction, Abu Amin Dayk, led the gang that killed Doherty and seized Joyce. Dayk himself was executed in May 1984 by the Shia Muslim Amal militia for alleged crimes against local Lebanese. He was publicly hanged near the village of Marrakeh. One Irish officer who tried to track Joyce down actually met Dayk shortly before Amal arrested him. 'Dayk was in his mid-thirties. He was of slight build. He had black hair and spoke in a very deep monosyllabic tone,' the former officer said. 'I remember during that meeting he appeared to be very nervous. You could tell that he was aware that his enemies were closing in. 'It was weird being in the same room as the man we suspected had been behind the Dyar Ntar attack. He was very uneasy during the meeting. He kept looking out the window. When people like Dayk sought a meeting with Unifil you could be sure their power was waning.' Over the years Irish investigators were fed various red herrings about Joyce's disappearance , including that he was killed in an Israeli air raid on the Ein Hilweh refugee camp during the 1982 invasion and that he had defected to the Palestinian side and started fighting with the guerrillas.
biko wrote: » If you have an iphone you can install this app Red Alert : Israel It will sound every time a rocket is fired at Israel.
Arthur Beesley wrote: » Shows how much we care about the Palestinaisn.
mad muffin wrote: » People don't. If they did they would be protesting against Hamas. Instead Israel is an easy target.
Lone Stone wrote: » BREAKING NEWS Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas asks UN to put ‘Palestine under international protection’
davmol wrote: » My reference was to the inncoent deaths of many young palestinian children due to Israeli 'Surgical strikes' on one of the most densely populated areas of the world.Lots of collateral damage. Almost a hundred dead and hundreds injured,the tollwill rise further before the Israelis are finsihed. at the last count there were NO Israeli fatalities
Lone Stone wrote: » [URL="BREAKING NEWS Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas asks UN to put ‘Palestine under international protection’"]BREAKING NEWS Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas asks UN to put ‘Palestine under international protection’[/URL]
Azwaldo55 wrote: » Hamas deliberately fire from Palestinian residential areas, schools and hospitals and store their rockets in civilian homes and use civilians as human shields. They deliberately fire their rockets at Israeli civilians. I ask you what are Israel supposed to do? Allow these Islamic extremists impunity? Hamas have the same Islamic supremacist ideology as ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Boko Haram, the Talibans and many more branches of the worldwide network of Islamic extremist political and terrorist organizations. The ideology of these Muslim fanatics is death to Jews, death to the West and the creation of a global Islamic caliphate.
Akrasia wrote: » And the more women and children Israel splatter across the pavement with their reckless missile strikes, the more people will be pushed to join the extremists. Extreme violence begets extreme violence.
Azwaldo55 wrote: » Hamas are hiding among the Palestinians and when innocent women and children are killed - precisely what Hamas want - they get idiots to start screaming about so-called Israeli war crimes.
end of the road wrote: » what exactly are you on about here? there is a difference between wanting a state who murders civilians to be held accountable for its crimes and dislike of a religion, do you believe those who criticise israel are anti-jewish?
old hippy wrote: » I'd be interested in hearing an answer to that, myself. It's funny, all the years I've criticised Mugabe and Zanu PF; nobody's ever called me anti-Zimbabwean.
Azwaldo55 wrote: » Hamas deliberately fire from Palestinian residential areas, schools and hospitals and store their rockets in civilian homes and use civilians as human shields. They deliberately fire their rockets at Israeli civilians. I ask you what are Israel supposed to do? Allow these Islamic extremists impunity?Hamas have the same Islamic supremacist ideology as ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Boko Haram, the Talibans and many more branches of the worldwide network of Islamic extremist political and terrorist organizations. The ideology of these Muslim fanatics is death to Jews, death to the West and the creation of a global Islamic caliphate.
Azwaldo55 wrote: » And what happens when UN forces are attacked with IEDs and UN soldiers are kidnapped and beheaded on youtube?
Azwaldo55 wrote: » I ask you what are Israel supposed to do?
Red Nissan wrote: » We'll lose some Blue Berets if that happens.
I Heart Internet wrote: » Hamas would only accept UN protection if it also allowed them to launch rockets at the same time.
The_Captain wrote: » Not murder civilians would be a good start
