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Soft Falling Rain

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

I'd be happy, but not overly happy. Why? I rather spend the money on a player with the world at his feed in a Griezmann. And then you see the likes of Vidal being linked with United, us fluffing are lines over a few million in regards to Moreno, it's head off wall stuff.

Vidal won't sign for Man United. Just paper ****e talk akin to the Kroos link.

K-9

Charlie19 wrote: »

Not entirely blaming FSG but we haven't been holding onto our best players now for the last few years.. Suarez, Torres, Masch, Reina(looking for a move to Barca) Alonso and Arbeloa.

Not forgetting, Carroll, Downing and Adams

Really those players prove it's very hard to fight of Real/Barca though, Torres was mad money at the time and he wanted out. We aren't that much different in that regard to United, Arsenal, Chelsea or Spurs.

The Letheram

djPSB wrote: »

Think we'll see a lot more of the diamond.

Apart from Sterling, we don't really have any out and out wingers. Nor have we been linked with any.

I don't mean wingers. Wing forwards is what I meant. Sterling, Markovic, Coutinho, Borini, Lallana, Sturridge could all fill this role with Lambert oe Bony (if signed) more of a central striker.
I do have a concern or two with this
1. Sturridge was never happy out wide at Chelsea. However with the amount of games this year he will get time wide and centrally I would say. Also the systemnwill be fluid and he would be rotating within games.
2. I dont have stats for this, but Bony seemed to score from crosses an awful lot. Pool dont throw in a lot of crosses so would that suit Bony?
The bottom line is if Rodgers believes Bony is going to fit he has earned enough of my trust to be happy about the signing.

K-9

sword1 wrote: »

I think bony is 25 and lukaku 21 , bony will cost 19 mil and lukaku 26 ,bony is after a very good year and lukaku had a poorer year than the year before.Presuming wages are similar i think lukaku could be the better option if we take the price difference as being nullified by age difference.With some stability he has massive potential for many years

Wasn't as impressed with Lukaku last season, think he had a couple of spells out though and still young. Bonys stats are impressive in a team that struggled last year. Early days yet and we haven't been linked by reputable sources yet, I do think if we end up with 4 good striker options playing with 2 up at times will be an option Rodgers will use at times.

Nuri Sahin

billy2012 wrote: »

http://lineupbuilder.com/?sk=3hx3n

As things stand I'd imagine it would be something like this.

Going to be so pissed off if he starts the season as our number one RB.

As for the rest, if we went with that, I'd expect a lot of interchanging of positions between the front four, even more so than last season.

Gbear

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

I'd be happy, but not overly happy. Why? I rather spend the money on a player with the world at his feed in a Griezmann. And then you see the likes of Vidal being linked with United, us fluffing are lines over a few million in regards to Moreno, it's head off wall stuff.

It would be if it was the 20th of August.

T-K-O

gosplan wrote: »

The only reason IMO is that the players Arsenal have tried to sign over the last 12 months are Suarez, Higuain, Ozil, Bender, Draxler, Sanchez.

If you're asking a player to make a step down from Madrid or Barca, that would be crucial IMO.

This isn't a pop at Liverpool, I'm sure Rodgers will have them competing but Arsenal have the financial advantage.

Location or finance is crucial?

Of course arsenal have the advantage at present, bigger stadium & more success in recent times but if we can maintain that champions league spot, everything else is just an excuse. If in two years time we lose out on a player to arsenal, I'll tend to beleive as I do now that just maybe this player wants to play for arsenal and not Lfc. If the guy is departing Barca / Madrid will only live in a capital city, maybe there is good reason he's on the move.

Attitude is key, if you want to play for us great, if not, have a nice life.

We lost out to BVB on mikhaterian * last summer. He scored a goal v Germany just before the world cup and almost apologiesd to his Germany colleagues. No celebration. I thought it strange at the time, Suarezs celebration v England confirmed it. This stuck in my mind, I guess it highlights the difference in mentality.

Nuri Sahin

rob316 wrote: »

With suarez gone would people be happy if our strikers next season were (presuming borini is sold)

Remy, Bony, Sturridge and Lambert?

I would be very happy with that. While we loose our one world class talent we would have for the first time in a very long time 4 very good strikers to pick from. As good as most in the league still.

You need 4 strikers to win the league, United always have and city now have.

I'd be happy, but not overly happy. Why? I rather spend the money on a player with the world at his feed in a Griezmann. And then you see the likes of Vidal being linked with United, us fluffing are lines over a few million in regards to Moreno, it's head off wall stuff.

billy2012

http://lineupbuilder.com/?sk=3hx3n

As things stand I'd imagine it would be something like this.

Ganymede Glow wrote: »

I'm struggling to see how we will line up for the first game of the season with the players we're bringing in. Not short of options though which is no bad thing. We know what we are getting in Lallana & Lambert so there shouldnt be many surprises there but Emre Can & Markovic still look a bit raw for me. Hopefully they make the transition to English football fairly quickly & im looking forward to seeing what Rodgers can do with them. Going to be an interesting season

Ganymede Glow

I'm struggling to see how we will line up for the first game of the season with the players we're bringing in. Not short of options though which is no bad thing. We know what we are getting in Lallana & Lambert so there shouldnt be many surprises there but Emre Can & Markovic still look a bit raw for me. Hopefully they make the transition to English football fairly quickly & im looking forward to seeing what Rodgers can do with them. Going to be an interesting season

klose

If we are sticking with the diamond we will need the full backs to start upping their deliverys etc... Johnson is poison and flanno wouldnt be great going forward either. Will be kind of pissed if wisdom goes on loan straight away on that note. Think we will revert back to 433 in any case.

billy2012

djPSB wrote: »

All the players are better through the middle which is why I think we'll se alot more of the diamond formation. So no we don't need wingers.

Gerrard or Can as the holding midfielder.

Mixture of Henderson, Lallana, Can, Allen in the centre.

Sterling, Coutinho or Markovic at the tip of the diamond.

Mixture of Sturridge, Sterling, Markovic, Borini, Lambert and other signings up top.

Maybe.

For me the diamond was really used so we could play with both Sturridge and Suarez upfront.

With Suarez gone, I think we will play with only one main striker, Sturridge or Bony and with 2 players playing wider of them.

Lallana is class in AM and WF positions like alot of the above players so I think we will see lots of floating as usual.

djPSB

billy2012 wrote: »

Wingers? Do we want out and out wingers?

Sterling, Coutinho, Lallana, Sturridge, Markovic, Borini, Suso, Ibe can all play in the two WF positions.

All the players are better through the middle which is why I think we'll se alot more of the diamond formation. So no we don't need wingers.

Gerrard or Can as the holding midfielder.

Mixture of Henderson, Lallana, Can, Allen in the centre.

Sterling, Coutinho or Markovic at the tip of the diamond.

Mixture of Sturridge, Sterling, Markovic, Borini, Lambert and other signings up top.

sword1

I think bony is 25 and lukaku 21 , bony will cost 19 mil and lukaku 26 ,bony is after a very good year and lukaku had a poorer year than the year before.Presuming wages are similar i think lukaku could be the better option if we take the price difference as being nullified by age difference.With some stability he has massive potential for many years

MD1990

rob316 wrote: »

With suarez gone would people be happy if our strikers next season were (presuming borini is sold)

Remy, Bony, Sturridge and Lambert?

I would be very happy with that. While we loose our one world class talent we would have for the first time in a very long time 4 very good strikers to pick from. As good as most in the league still.

You need 4 strikers to win the league, United always have and city now have.

Would be very happy with those 4 strikers

Sturridge - 21 goals/29
Bony - 16/34
Remy - 14/26
Lambert - 13/37

billy2012

djPSB wrote: »

Think we'll see a lot more of the diamond.

Apart from Sterling, we don't really have any out and out wingers. Nor have we been linked with any.

Wingers? Do we want out and out wingers?

Sterling, Coutinho, Lallana, Sturridge, Markovic, Borini, Suso, Ibe can all play in the two WF positions.

rob316

NoviGlitzko wrote: »

What does speed actually do when it comes to strikers? All they need to do is score goals. You will never see Bony play as a winger so how do you know he is slow anyway? Regardless - strenght > quickness as far as I'm concerned. Especially with defences sitting as deep as they are in the PL.

I know it's likewise, but he will get goals in many games in where Suarez could not - i.e. like Chelsea for example.

I was pointing it out because rodgers likes pace in the current system that's how we destroyed teams last season we pressed them high up the pitch and broke forward at devestating pace.

Suarez wasn't the quickest player around but bony is alot slower there will need to be a change in playing style.

rob316

With suarez gone would people be happy if our strikers next season were (presuming borini is sold)

Remy, Bony, Sturridge and Lambert?

I would be very happy with that. While we loose our one world class talent we would have for the first time in a very long time 4 very good strikers to pick from. As good as most in the league still.

You need 4 strikers to win the league, United always have and city now have.

djPSB

The Letheram wrote: »

I think Rodgers will go back towards his system of his swansea days with two very quick wide forwards and one central guy who is an out and out finisher. Danny Graham even did well as the centre man in this system and Bony would be very suited to it and pool have quick wide forwards.

Think we'll see a lot more of the diamond.

Apart from Sterling, we don't really have any out and out wingers. Nor have we been linked with any.

Jako8

Tottenham are preparing to fight Liverpool for Wilfried Bony by tabling an £18m bid for the Swansea striker.

And if you look to your left you'll see the obligatory Tottenham bid for a Liverpool target.

Source--it's Metro, no idea if they're reliable.

KingJamsie

Expect Vorm to come in as soon as Reina leaves via Sunday People

punk_one82

NoviGlitzko wrote: »

What does speed actually do when it comes to strikers? All they need to do is score goals.

Speed helps strikers get away from defenders. It's a lot easier to score goals when no defenders are near you, and it's a pretty great attribute to have as a striker because it makes you a nightmare to mark.

The Letheram

I think Rodgers will go back towards his system of his swansea days with two very quick wide forwards and one central guy who is an out and out finisher. Danny Graham even did well as the centre man in this system and Bony would be very suited to it and pool have quick wide forwards.

Pilsbury Doughboy

I mentioned before that having been browsing an Everton thread they were very split on whether they wanted to keep Lukaku or not, he can be very frustrating and donkish with the ball just bouncing off him, so with that in mind IF it came down to a choice I'd take Bony, I'd prefer to get neither but I could get on board with Bony quicker than Lukaku!

0028673

klose wrote: »

Might want to re read the article there mate :P

My bad. Had a few too many lastnight

It's a good move for him, hopefully he can nail down a place and get some EPl experience under his belt and come back a better player.

I hope this a sign that we're in the market for a RB that I don't know does RB stuff unlike our GlenJo.

kevohmsford

Agent Coulson wrote: »

The farewell to Hansen is on the BBC right now for anyone who missed it the other night.

Thanks watching this now. What a legend.

NoviGlitzko

rob316 wrote: »

I'm warming to bony more and more definitely think he would score lots of goals it's just he's very slow and to me doesn't fit into how rodgers plays. Saying that the team was built around suarez so inevitably rodgers will look to change the system again as you can't replace suarez with an inferior player in the same set up and hope for it to work.

What does speed actually do when it comes to strikers? All they need to do is score goals. You will never see Bony play as a winger so how do you know he is slow anyway? Regardless - strenght > quickness as far as I'm concerned. Especially with defences sitting as deep as they are in the PL.

I know it's likewise, but he will get goals in many games in where Suarez could not - i.e. like Chelsea for example.

MD1990

I think Lambert was bought as an alternative to Bony as his price was quite high. It looks as though Liverpool atm are considering whether to go for Bony or Remy or possibly both if Sunderland make an acceptable bid for Borini. I think Bony is a very good striker as he didn't get many chances at Swansea & scored 16 PL goals. If we didn't have Lambert I think he would a very good signing but I think Remy or Aubameyang would suit us better.

Agent Coulson

The farewell to Hansen is on the BBC right now for anyone who missed it the other night.

klose

0028673 wrote: »

Wisdom is off to Derby again for the season. I was hoping that a Premiership club might come in for him.

http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/Liverpool-defender-Andre-Wisdom-set-season-long/story-21457645-detail/story.html?

Might want to re read the article there mate :P