Danger Fourpence wrote: » I'm sorry. You're basing your FACTS on how disappointed you perceived people to be over the weekend? DvP How did they blame volunteers here?
pervertedcoffee wrote: » Dude, relax. I used the word Fact once and it was a poor choice. Poor word choices happen. Ive been quite clear that this is all based on my observation and understanding. I've also specifically tried to keep my tone not personal, I am sorry if it came across that way. Honestly. Right, I've been weighing in my observations, not in an attempt to invalidate DvPs reason for pulling out, which reading their fb reply they seem to think I'm doing. It's just people jumped to the conclusion it was a payment issue and what I was very very badly trying to say was: I really very strongly don't think it is based on x, y, z. Why I thought they were divas was the way they replied to a lot of disappointed fans, not in a private message, but openly; 'it's in the festivals hands, you'll have to ask LCS, etc.' this paints everyone involved in the festival in a really bad light and undermines their 'we don't comment on festival business because it's bad for them and us' attitude If it were me I would have announced it totally differently with a completely different tone. Even the 'catastrophic' comment seems to me unnecessary and diva-y/douchey and I think that's ok for me to have that opinion of how they handled it and for it to colour my opinion of their characters, even their reply to Paul has made me rethink my opinion of them and something along those lines seems to me would have been a less harsh way to let people know that shi+t went wrong. That's all I was trying to say, I'm sorry I didn't get it right, did I do a better job this time? I definitely fell into the keyboard crusader trap.
Lala_Moore wrote: » Cheers P Malone seen there reply dan le sac Vs Scroobius Pip Dammit, now I'm all angry!!! This is why I avoid reading anything ever! D dan le sac Vs Scroobius Pip We're not in the habit of commenting on Festivals business practises, especially on public forums, it's damaging to them & us. What I will say is this, we are not divas, we had worries about very basic things & the festival did nothing to help us. It was not until we actually pulled the show and announced it that the festival suddenly decided to communicate with us. We have given promoters a lot of faith over the years, we've pulled 6 shows total in 8 years, 2 of those were swine flu, one a dead laptop, one pip lost his voice. We've played some downright awful, shambolic, sometimes terrifying gigs, but always turned up & played to our best. So believe me, we had good reason to cancel, and those reasons won't be whatever bull**** was floating around the site. Dan Also It is slander if you have no proof or should I say defamation of character really, maybe slander is a strong term, all I know now is there not the only ones who have been burnt that's all I ll say!!
Danger Fourpence wrote: » Is that from FB? You got a link?
edanto wrote: » I was at this festival too, and while it was a bit of a slow burner, by Saturday the crowds really picked up. Kila had 6-800 dancing their socks off in the sun, ASIWYFA drew a massive crowd too at the other end of the night and also discovered some new smaller bands (like The Bagels). It seems like the week or two leading up to the gig was fairly rocky for the organisers. Poor marketing must have led to poor sales. Some cancellations (Pip & the childrens activities that others mentioned), and there was no communication of late changes (can't bring your own booze into arena after all); particularly on the stage-times. There was no-where on site to get any information about current running times. It really was a lucky dip walking up to some stages. Even a big blackboard at each stage would have done the trick. The layout of the arena was a bit confusing, particularly the 'faraway' stage as people got to calling it. Maybe that was changed at the last minute? Safety was great, security seemed sound, production quality (once the bands finally got on stage) was high and I certainly enjoyed myself a lot. My missus took a set of photos there for Goldenplec, if anyone wants to scan through the album it's on https://www.facebook.com/MichelleGeraghtyPhotography My personal favourites from the album are: The Raglans Jerry Fish King Kong Company Whelans Tent Wallis Bird ASIWYFA
Hey @LCSFESTIVAL its pretty bad you didn't pay bands their fees & deleted all criticism, but volunteers' deposits aren't being paid? Foul..
Danger Fourpence wrote: » Looks like they've done a good enough job of this themselves. Did you get your deposit?
pervertedcoffee wrote: » If my guess is right this doesn't make them immoral people, rubbing their hands together, vowing not to pay bands; it just means things didn't work out the way they would have hoped.
pervertedcoffee wrote: » Yeah, I really wish they'd just be open about all the adminy stuff in in the background. Cause even if the finances have gone tits up (I don't know one way or the other) at least people will know they're doing their best to get the bands paid (I'm assuming the best of their nature) Yup, got my deposit, as did all the other volunteers. I got mine fairly much straight away because the lads had my contact details. There was confusion because they used Eventbrite to collect the deposits but then EFT'd deposits direct to our accounts. Admin delays I guess, I dunno. I have also been told that bands have been asked for a grace period which hasn't yet passed. :pac: I'm hoping for all involved that all comes good. I will be so disappointed if that's not the case. My guess is they were hoping to pay those bands with money from takings (I wasn't aware there were bands paid by cheque) which, let's face it, not hard to figure out there wasn't much in the way of takings... If my guess is right this doesn't make them immoral people, rubbing their hands together, vowing not to pay bands; it just means things didn't work out the way they would have hoped.
Danger Fourpence wrote: » So would I be correct in saying that you have just as much criticism for Halves as you do for DLS, seeing as Halves have also criticised the festival in public.
pervertedcoffee wrote: » Nope, the conduct is decidedly different but I'm not going into it again. Go troll elsewhere.
pervertedcoffee wrote: » Yeah, I really wish they'd just be open about all the adminy stuff in in the background. Cause even if the finances have gone tits up (I don't know one way or the other) at least people will know they're doing their best to get the bands paid (I'm assuming the best of their nature)Yup, got my deposit, as did all the other volunteers. I got mine fairly much straight away because the lads had my contact details. There was confusion because they used Eventbrite to collect the deposits but then EFT'd deposits direct to our accounts. Admin delays I guess, I dunno. I have also been told that bands have been asked for a grace period which hasn't yet passed. :pac: I'm hoping for all involved that all comes good. I will be so disappointed if that's not the case. My guess is they were hoping to pay those bands with money from takings (I wasn't aware there were bands paid by cheque) which, let's face it, not hard to figure out there wasn't much in the way of takings... If my guess is right this doesn't make them immoral people, rubbing their hands together, vowing not to pay bands; it just means things didn't work out the way they would have hoped.
pervertedcoffee wrote: » All due to be paid were paid in one batch, before the festival. That info is from knowing and talking to bands who got paid and not anyone directly involved. So could be wrong, but *I* doubt it, perhaps naive of me, granted.
Danger Fourpence wrote: » This can't still be correct, can it?
