fergus1001 wrote: » I can see eircoms network becoming redundant over the next 10 years and the company itself get into serious trouble because of the lack of line rental and income from other operators using there network
jca wrote: » Tough. Entirely their own fault if it does happen.
kaizersoze wrote: » Other than Galway city, nothing in Galway...
murphaph wrote: » Their copper last mile will eventually become redundant yes, as eventually FTTH/B will be ubiquitous. That day is more than 10 years away though. ESB won't even complete Phase I of this project until 2018 and that's assuming they get a swift green light from the EU. Phase I only encompasses something like 25% of all premises. That leaves a lot or premises still reliant on copper twisted pairs or coax (though I believe UPC will move to replace their coax last mile with fibre as well. They'll have no choice and are probably in the best position to do so as the cable network is much younger overall than the telephone network). Even so, we're looking at more like 20+ years from now before you could reasonably expect every last bit of copper to be retired from the Eircom network. Even that would be a huge achievement though!! It all depends how the ESB/VOD JV pans out. They have a much harder task ahead of them than Eircom with VDSL. No matter what people think about "using existing ESB infrastructure" there will be a awful lot of digging done to get fibre actually into properties. It'll be akin to when an area gets connected to the natural gas grid I'd say.
fergus1001 wrote: » You have have esb fibre in Galway already look at the MAN's on the maps
1huge1 wrote: » I wonder how much of this can be attributed to Pat Rabbittes time as Communications minister even if he is about to lose that job, the pace of change in the broadband infrastructure in this country has finally started to catch up with the rest of the world.
godskitchen wrote: » Is it just me or is the current ESB fibre network not all that impressive?...... From the published map it looks like they have a lot of fibre to run.
murphaph wrote: » ...and if 95% of Galway's population was covered you'd say "How come everyone in Galway except me can get FTTH?". They can't win. They have to start somewhere FFS!!
kaizersoze wrote: » Just making an observation. Wind your fu€kin neck in.
greilly123 wrote: » Is it not possible for ESB to deliver broadband through the power socket. ?
TheDriver wrote: » can anyone describe how this works in reality? what equipment etc will we see in our homes?
murphaph wrote: » I presume most of the digging will be subcontracted just like the eircom VDSL rollout. 60 employees certainly won't be enough for this mammoth task.
Impetus wrote: » This essentially looks like a rural FTTP project
Impetus wrote: » which does not generally involve much digging - they just string the fibre from ESB or phone pole to pole (which is mechanizable) . Rural areas are the cheapest to install fiber in. The issue is how much use will be made of this infrastructure in a rural area? I have no objection to good broadband service becoming available in either rural or urban areas.
Impetus wrote: » Finally it is down to contention ratios - eg a gigabit fibre shared among 100,000 subscribers gives a theoretical 10 kbits/sec at best (and in reality much less). A fast Morse code machine, no better. One needs competition (ie open fibre) to encourage lots of providers to compete on both quality (ie low contention) and price.
