hynesie08 wrote: » As I said, I got a leaflet about the meeting and I'm in phibsboro and I saw posters in Windows in drumcondra, so I don't believe they didn't know, weren't bothered maybe.
donkeyoaty0099 wrote: » There has been some baffling posts in this thread but this one really takes the biscuit. Move 27000 people so you can get drunk for an evening? Also, an airport's main function is to facilitate aircraft. Croke Park's main function is not to facilitate mass line dances.
paddyirish23 wrote: » How do you go to a meeting that you don't know about? Look I feel for the residents who don't want this happening but they already getting 3 now What's the point in turning down 5 when the 3 should not have been granted? Now dcc have opened up the can of worms they can't close
max life wrote: » The obvious solution would be to allow the 5 concerts to go ahead on the condition that no concerts will be allowed next year? I would be extremely surprised if all 5 didnt go ahead. TRUST ME!!!;)
munstermagic11 wrote: » They weren't asked to meetings? Ok. So why didn't they go anyway? As residents in the area, they knew that there was residents that would object to more than the agreed limit of 3 concerts, so why didn't they organise themselves then to protest for further gigs? Why haven't they organised in the past (like those that objected) and come forward in previous years for further concerts in their area?
paddyirish23 wrote: » Well they said on interviews on tv last night that they were never asked to go to any meetings I'd imagine they just expected the concerts to go ahead I mean have your home to any residential meetings in your area? The people that run them think they are more important then most residents so most ppl just don't bother going
munstermagic11 wrote: » Exactly. FF and FG have already had their PR moments, now it's SF turns. If the all five concerts go ahead I'll be happy for those fans. But I'll be sorry for those residents that have to suffer as a consequence, and it'll be disappointing to see greed and a disregard for process win out.
hynesie08 wrote: » But why do you need a poll? Why didn't the pro-gig crowd go to any of the meetings? Or write letters to DCC themselves? Why wait till after the decisions been made? If the concerts are so important to them why not do even the bare minimum until now.
baaba maal wrote: » This is populist grandstanding nonsense
Hococop wrote: » Would been interesting to see a a poll done for the residents to see how many are ok with the concert and who are against it completely
HardLuckWoman wrote: » Then you have some residents coming out and threatening legal action. They're holding a protest on monday. Also the residents in favour of the concerts are holding are protest at the same time. Seems to be alot more on this side. Interesting to see what happens.
miju wrote: » Looks like 5 nights might going ahead afterall thanks to SF seeing as how they are in control of the council after last eleectionshttp://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/sinn-fein-to-table-emergency-motion-on-garth-brooks-concerts-635450.html
munstermagic11 wrote: » True, I'm not. Yet I could see that this coming from the start. And at least I'm not pretending that I'm involved in it.
miju wrote: » Spoken truely like someone who has never been involved in these type of events
munstermagic11 wrote: » They are in the industry, and they can set the contracts. Aiken knew it was unlikely that they would get a licence for all 5 dates, yet they proceeded upon that risky assumption. In doing so they have disappointed the fans by building up expectation, sold tickets to gigs that were unlikely to occur, went into a contract (without anyone holding a gun tot heir head) with GB on dates they couldn't guarantee, and placed themselves in financial trouble.
miju wrote: » It's industry standard in contracts
OK so you are insurance provider. Mr. Aiken rings you up on Monday looking for insurance for the 3 gigs at Croker, in your risk assessment as an insurer knowing there is a large possibility that all are not going ahead will you be insuring him?
Not to the tune of €2m odd no. Sometimes people just dont want to hear basic common sense and facts and aren't satisfied no matter what :rolleyes:
ghostdancer wrote: » given that Brooks has said 5 or nothing, plus the residents threatening to go to the High Court to stop all of them, no insurance company with any sense would touch these at present.
hynesie08 wrote: » They got the license for 3 gigs so they should get insurance for 3 gigs.
hynesie08 wrote: » Neither of us have seen the contract so it's pure speculation to say that.
hynesie08 wrote: » They got the license for 3 gigs so they should get insurance for 3 gigs. It's not no jobs, It's 2-5 days less work.
hynesie08 wrote: » And what profits have they made this year on top of that? In 50+ years of promoting have they never been in the red?
miju wrote: » He will get paid because it's breach of contract its 3 not 5, NO PROMOTER can get insurance for events UNTIL licenses are granted. And yes staff will only get paid if they work the gigs, no gigs = no jobs = no pay
How much money do you think Aiken have do you know? I will tell you at the end of 2103 they had €4.27m in cash. Going by your figures that would indeed sink them and leave them in the red to the tune of at least €1.73m
miju wrote: » At this stage given the quotes below it's no longer just about Garth Brooks, this will ruin a viable profitable company together with the hundreds of casual jobs they give people through the year as well as tax paid to the government. Cancelled concerts could spell the end for Aiken Promotions The promoter of Garth Brooks Croke Park concerts says the singer “won’t back down” from his pledge to play five concerts or none. Speaking to ‘The Business’ on RTÉ Radio this morning, Peter Aiken of Aiken Promotions said that when he asked Brooks to consider playing three shows, the country star told him: “You know how I feel.” Aiken added: “I don’t think he’ll back down.” The promoter said that he has no insurance - as you cannot get insurance without a licence - and therefore his company is set to incur seven-figure costs “easy”, if all five shows are cancelled.
Cancelled concerts could spell the end for Aiken Promotions The promoter of Garth Brooks Croke Park concerts says the singer “won’t back down” from his pledge to play five concerts or none. Speaking to ‘The Business’ on RTÉ Radio this morning, Peter Aiken of Aiken Promotions said that when he asked Brooks to consider playing three shows, the country star told him: “You know how I feel.” Aiken added: “I don’t think he’ll back down.” The promoter said that he has no insurance - as you cannot get insurance without a licence - and therefore his company is set to incur seven-figure costs “easy”, if all five shows are cancelled.
