The_Morrigan wrote: » I volunteer at events all over the country, gigs, festivals, parades, sports, cultural events
Zardoz wrote: » No,no it wouldnt unless you are a masochist who likes to get soaked
miju wrote: » Sorry so the casual workers by these health and safety, drinks, engineering, stage crews, lighting, food, security are not all real jobs??? As for volunteers, the only volunteers working at a gig are St. John Ambulance, Red Cross etc and even then their units and the organisation gets paid handsomely and use it a serious source of income for training and equipment and thats not including the Event Medic companies on top of that. News to me given I have worked at them for years and see the same faces who rotate amongst all the gigs in this country. Just because a person does 2 days in Croke Park doesnt mean then after that they arent working in Marley Park and then the O2 and RDS as well. It's casual because its no set guarentee of hours / work. Getting very tired of people talking about things they know nothing about on this thread
hynesie08 wrote: » Hmmmmmmmmm.......... Thunder rolls with actual thunder would be awesome.
hynesie08 wrote: » And does he get paid if he just refuses to play? Don't Aiken have insurance for the first 3 nights? Won't most of the staff only get paid if they work the gigs?
hynesie08 wrote: » I have no doubt aiken will lose money from this (I'm guessing €6-8 million) But it won't be enough to sink them.
Zardoz wrote: » If the gigs are moved to October they would be a far better spectacle provided the weather is decent as it will be dark for the entire duration of the gig so the lighting effects will be far superior.This makes for a far better atmosphere . The big problem with outdoor gigs in Ireland at this time of the year is that its bright until ten .
miju wrote: » It's not scaremongering if you understand how the industry works here and abroad its simple fact, whether Garth plays the gigs or not he is still getting paid.
The_Morrigan wrote: » Just to point out a lot of the 'casual jobs' are filled by unpaid interns (graduates) college students on work placements and volunteers rather than paid staff. The paid staff are mostly made up of contract work to other event management companies (health and safety, security, lighting, sound etc) or drinks companies & local businesses who do the food/drink for events. There is a serious misconception on the jobs created by these events and festivals.
miju wrote: » At this stage given the quotes below it's no longer just about Garth Brooks, this will ruin a viable profitable company together with the hundreds of casual jobs they give people through the year as well as tax paid to the government.
hynesie08 wrote: » And we were the scaremongerers for saying the gigs might not get a license?
Cancelled concerts could spell the end for Aiken Promotions The promoter of Garth Brooks Croke Park concerts says the singer “won’t back down” from his pledge to play five concerts or none. Speaking to ‘The Business’ on RTÉ Radio this morning, Peter Aiken of Aiken Promotions said that when he asked Brooks to consider playing three shows, the country star told him: “You know how I feel.” Aiken added: “I don’t think he’ll back down.” The promoter said that he has no insurance - as you cannot get insurance without a licence - and therefore his company is set to incur seven-figure costs “easy”, if all five shows are cancelled.
HardLuckWoman wrote: » That doesn't make sense. Do three and come back again and do two. Im sick of it at this stage. They have taken the fun out of it all. And as for the all 5 or nothing. He was always for the fans and anyone with a ticket should get to see him. I dont know what way things are done in the US but they sue over everything so they would get licences before and not after. But this isnt the USA either and its our planning laws here and dcc granted three. He should cop on (but I still love him).
Fortyjocks wrote: » Aiken tells RTE still hope for 5 this morning but also mentioned October as alternative for mon/tues shows!
baaba maal wrote: » So, they had the three concerts, they applied for a further five and were granted three. There was no breach of procedure here by DCC or the backers of the concerts. There was also nothing to stop the promoters applying prior to the ten week deadline. They can talk all they like about engaging with DCC prior to this, but until DCC receives the application they cannot deal it, in the same way that a local authority cannot comment on any proposal for a planning development until they actually receive the planning application. Brooks and Aitken are business people, they gambled on maximising their financial gain and they were unsuccessful. Am I missing anything?
nm wrote: » They already have a perfectly fine one, been there since 1913. They should move the local residents to the country. If I move in beside the airport and complain in 20 years should they stop planes from flying?
That_Girl_ Is_ A_Cowboy wrote: » This is piece in relation to planning stipulation for croke park. It says: “An Bord Pleanála granted permission for the redevelopment of Croke Park Stadium on the 9th of March 1993 under Planning Permission Register Reference No. 0238/92. Condition 11 of the permission allows for three special events such as concerts per year to be held in the stadium under this permission subject to the approval of an event management plan which is required to be submitted by way of compliance submission to Dublin City Councils Planning Department. Any additional concerts proposed to be held in Croke Park in excess of the three permitted per year under the permission must be applied for by way of a Public Event Licence application to Dublin City Council under the provisions of 230 of the Planning and Development Act 2000 as amended. The application which can be for one or more events must be made a minimum of ten weeks prior to the first event. It is this link:http://votemcauliffe.com/concern-raised-as-planning-doubts-hang-over-garth-brooks-concert/
gerbilgranny wrote: » I dunno - the Council are saying there can be no appeal etc, but half a million people - between Irish fans, tourists, and those employed because of the concerts......ridiculous....
Max Headroom wrote: » WTF dont they build a stadium out in the middle of the country for this type of shyte.....The GAA have plenty of money....ffs...:rolleyes:
