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My brother is running our farm now, and this morning he recieved a letter from our parish, signed by the parish priest, informing him that the parish was in a lot of debt and in order for them to try clear the debt, they were writing to farmers in the parish to see if they were willing to participate in a scheme where the church buys a young calf and the farmer rears it until its to be sold and then they're given the money for it.

Didn't think things were quite so bad! Maybe it's time the parish priest stopped changing his car every year

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Michael2107

Sir Arthur Daley wrote: »

Up to €1000 to dig a grave, drop tools and buy a shovel im in.

So Dublin corporation or any council for that matter are going to let people come into graveyards with no insurance and dig graves?

I'm not saying the price is not excessive but its not that simple in a local authority run graveyard which the majority are now.

gctest50

Sir Arthur Daley wrote: »

Up to €1000 to dig a grave, drop tools and buy a shovel im in.

Rent a digger - safer - hole could cave in on you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuZg-1DPjFo

Sir Arthur Daley

LexieOnRale wrote: »

. The hundred euro is a charge to open the grave, it's nothing to do with who digs it, that's a seperate charge.

Who do this €100 get paid to?

Michael2107 wrote: »

So Dublin corporation or any council for that matter are going to let people come into graveyards with no insurance and dig graves?

First i heard of a grave digger having insurance, come to think of it i dont know any grave digger that pays tax either.

doolox

No way am letting the bloodsucking leeches get 20k from me for a hole in the ground.

Michael2107

Sir Arthur Daley wrote: »

Who do this €100 get paid to?

First i heard of a grave digger having insurance, come to think of it i dont know any grave digger that pays tax either.

You do know in Dublin the majority of graves are dug by employees of Dublin corporation? So its safe to assume they pay tax.

I not been a d*ck but I know from personal experience that it is required, and no i'm not a grave digger ha

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Sir Arthur Daley wrote: »

Who do this €100 get paid to?

First i heard of a grave digger having insurance, come to think of it i dont know any grave digger that pays tax either.

The undertaker told me that the church gets it. Because when I saw it on the bill I thought it was a charge for digging the grave and our neighbours had dug it for us. He said no it's a charge for the church anytime the grave is opened.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Did anyone ever hear the gravediggers radio documentary on RTE. I think it was about Glasnevin, Jesus the stories these guys told, things like graves collapsing and coffins from neighbouring plots falling in on the new grave. I wouldn't be cut out for that kind of thing, it would traumatise me for life.

c_man

Parish in debt? The backhander the priest gets for doing one or two weddings should be enough to clear it I imagine.

beertons

May start adding more water to that wine, make it last to Christmas.

Satriale

He needs to run a raffle. Make sure to tell him that its not unusual for the people running the raffle to win it...

Beano

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Realistically there isn't a lot to be made from farming. Buy a calf for
300 euro, have the animal on the farm for two years. So that's 2 herd tests, if the animal gets sick you've the vets bills and medicine bills, water charges, dosing the animal for fluke, worms, ect. Then of course you'll need to feed it. Silage, ration/nuts, store it in winter. You'd sell it on then for between 800-1100 (depending on how well it did and gender). It's also taking up space when you can have one of your own on the farm instead.

I think what the priest is suggesting is that the farmer cover all of those costs out of the goodness of their hearts.

awec

Michael2107 wrote: »

The €100 is just a fee it doesnt cover the cost of opening the grave, this will cost anywhere from €300 to €1000 depending on the area.

A grand to dig a hole?

How?

catallus

awec wrote: »

A grand to dig a hole?

How?

Any fool can dig a hole in the ground but we're talking about a very particular type of hole here. It has certain pre-determined dimensions and one has to take account of the aforementioned specific factors which can come up whilst digging such a hole. If the grave next-door decides to encroach on the site of the hole you're digging then a certain level of smarts is required to overcome the problems which will arise.

Cienciano

If people are charging a grand to dig a hole, something is seriously wrong.

P_1

Cienciano wrote: »

If people are charging a grand to dig a hole, something is seriously wrong.

Well it's not exactly digging a hole to plant a tree. Still though the costs associated with funerals and death in general are obscene and there's not really a way of avoiding them.

Personally when my time comes I'd rather be tossed off the side of the Holyhead ferry,

Michael2107

I'm not saying they all cost that, but there is plenty of websites for well known Dublin operators where you will see that price

gctest50

P_1 wrote: »

Well it's not exactly digging a hole to plant a tree. Still though the costs associated with funerals and death in general are obscene and there's not really a way of avoiding them.

Personally when my time comes I'd rather be tossed off the side of the Holyhead ferry,

Donate your body to science maybe - no point wasting it ?

http://www.thejournal.ie/donating-bodies-to-science-812342-Mar2013/

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/blood_and_organ_donation/organ_and_body_donation.html

Pick the one nearest you :

http://www.ucc.ie/en/anatomy/anatomicalbequests/

http://www.nuigalway.ie/anatomy/donation_programme.html

https://medicine.tcd.ie/anatomy/donations/

http://www.ucd.ie/medicine/bodydonation/

They need plenty of them - i did after a friends grandfather did - never really thought about it before that

Maphisto

P_1 wrote: »

The PP is chancing his arm if you ask me. Tell him to get onto HQ in either Dublin or Rome if he's stuck for a few bob

Or maybe if he just eased up a bit on the Coke and hookers

foxy farmer

I've seen parishes go into serious debt for 2 main reasons. Gullible priests who accept any price quoted for restoration work and the cha ching factor as I call it. Contractors shoving up prices for work as the Church is involved. The services of a decent quantity surveyor wouldn't go astray imo.

Tail Docker

Sir Arthur Daley wrote: »

Up to €1000 to dig a grave, drop tools and buy a shovel im in.

My neighbour is a grave digger, he does it the old way, by hand as the graveyards around here don't suit going in with a mini-digger. Have a go - it's some craic, yup, great altogether. The phrase back-breaking springs to mind..He gets around €300 for digging/filling one. I'd rather eat grass tbh...

Sir Arthur Daley

Tail Docker wrote: »

My neighbour is a grave digger, he does it the old way, by hand as the graveyards around here don't suit going in with a mini-digger. Have a go - it's some craic, yup, great altogether. The phrase back-breaking springs to mind..He gets around €300 for digging/filling one. I'd rather eat grass tbh...

I have dug graves by hand, my point was if you got €1000 to dig a six foot grave you would not be doing so bad. Alot of people dig graves away to wide and away too long and they are the ones who moan of how back breaking it is. If you use a coffin template and keep the digging neat the only pain you would have in your back would be from the weight of your wallet.

IronicNic

Can priests get the dole to help sustain their living costs?..its not like they actually do any work ..apart from praying and stuff.Also do they pay tax on their weekly whip rounds?

Rhyme

Get Rome to strip some gilt from a guest bedroom to pay their debt.

donegal__road

Rhyme wrote: »

Get Rome to strip some gilt from a guest bedroom to pay their debt.

melt it down and make a golden calf statue.

shruikan2553

I would love to donate but Im busy paying tax so the abuse victims get paid.

catallus wrote: »

This sounds like an communist plot from an anarcho-atheist infiltration into your local parish; alert your local postman immediately. I'll be in the pub, let me know what he says.

Oh look, catallus making comments about atheists. Not going for the failed internet meme today?

catallus

shruikan2553 wrote: »

... Not going for the failed internet meme today?

Which one is this one now, hic?

EDIT: Ah, now I get you, ok... no not tonight, tonight will be something new

In fairness, I don't comment on them too much.

Tokyo

Sir Arthur Daley wrote: »

I have dug graves by hand, my point was if you got €1000 to dig a six foot grave you would not be doing so bad. Alot of people dig graves away to wide and away too long and they are the ones who moan of how back breaking it is. If you use a coffin template and keep the digging neat the only pain you would have in your back would be from the weight of your wallet.

Any I've dug have been a half days work at most, the family would usually throw us the price of a few drinks afterwards for our troubles. At €1000 a grave, I'd be doing it full time and praying for people to keel over....

gctest50

Maphisto wrote: »

Or maybe if he just eased up a bit on the Coke and hookers

very time consuming ........

http://www.coca-colacompany.com/coca-cola-unbottled/out-of-office-two-years-and-counting-restoring-a-boat

Ruu

Saw this documentary that might have some ideas for fundraising. It was called 'Think Fast, Father Ted'.

[Deleted User]

Awww is the business of selling lies to children not paying dividends any more. Boo...... hoo....... hoo...... oh pass me a cookie I actually could not care about them less.