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Garth Brooks Comeback Special ALL 5 SHOWS CANCELLED READ FIRST POST

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So Garth Brooks has finally confirmed he is going on tour in 2014. Will there be an ireland date and if so which venue would you like to see him play?

Link http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/earshot/garth-brooks-announces-2014-world-664188

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hynesie08

ManOfMystery wrote: »

So, what if the residents were given some kind of sweetener?

They don't want and never asked for compo. A fund of €500,000 was recommended and rejected.

OldGoat

ManOfMystery wrote: »

So, what if the residents were given some kind of sweetener?

What (or how much) do you suggest would be a suitable sweetener?

miju

ManOfMystery wrote: »

So, what if the residents were given some kind of sweetener?

like €500,000 wasn't enough of a sweetener?

Shedite27

ManOfMystery wrote: »

So, what if the residents were given some kind of sweetener?

In the past they were always given sweeteners, sounds like this time they asked for too much and DCC called their bluff and told them to go f themselves.

ManOfMystery

So, what if the residents were given some kind of sweetener?

Peppa Pig

flasher0030 wrote: »

If Brooks cancelled all 5 gigs, where would people's fury be directed at - Brooks himself or GAA/Aikens.

The residents

miju

My guess DCC and / or residents

FullBack Jam

If Brooks cancelled all 5 gigs, where would people's fury be directed at - Brooks himself or GAA/Aikens.

ruskin

Garth Brooks is an American country music singer.

horslips

Is it not a little bit surreal that you can still buy tickets for the Tuesday night show on Ticketmaster?

dublin99

GAA and Aiken were well aware of the agreement and the 3 concert rule.

They were greedy.

They thought they could get away with it, possibly by giving a sweetener (tiny percentage of the profits from the extra 2 shows) to the residents association.

Did they think they were above the law?

It should be interesting to see what provisions were in Aiken's contract with Garth Brooks. Maybe Garth Brooks will pursue Aiken for breach of contract?

Although the tickets had the small print "subject to licence" on them, concert goers bought these tickets in good faith and were not aware of the potential dispute. The promoters should act in a decent manner and offer some form of compensation in addition to a full refund as a good will gesture. But will they?

hynesie08

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

Not a hope for monday and tuesday.

Go for sunday tickets nevermind the comment saying the first three will be cancelled as well....Even if it does, you will get a refund. It wont come to it. The council satisfied the residents. GB wont pull out of the gigs, no way he will do that to his fans.

Trust me, if aiken try to pull out of paying Garth for all 5 gigs, you'll see a Stetson hat shaped hole in the wall he'll bail that fast.

sydthebeat

peejay1986 wrote: »

Hahaha good luck in life if this is your attitude. Fight the power! :rolleyes:

with this attitude its not me who needs luck going through life....

keep your shoulder to the wheel......;)

Mrs Garth Brooks

shoppergal wrote: »

Don't know what to do. There are tickets on ticketmaster for the Sunday night. Afraid that if i buy them and something happens to save the Tuesday night that i'll be left with two lots of tickets.

Does anyone know likely is it that something will happen to allow the Monday & Tuesday night to go ahead?

Not a hope for monday and tuesday.

Go for sunday tickets nevermind the comment saying the first three will be cancelled as well....Even if it does, you will get a refund. It wont come to it. The council satisfied the residents. GB wont pull out of the gigs, no way he will do that to his fans.

Mr_Red

Aviva should take full advantage of this situation and start drawing up agreements to hold a larger amount of concerts with the locals and pull this business out of the Croke Park completely

Everytime there are concerts in CP the residents moan about and I heard on Joe Duffy that 2500 people work in CP for the gigs and a large amount are the locals themselves

[Deleted User]

CTYIgirl wrote: »

I'm reading this in dismay. To everyone who is losing out because their date is cancelled, I'm sorry. But as someone who spends between 3 and 5 nights a week living in the area around Croke Park, I'm delighted. Residents accept that GAA matches happen. Residents accept three concerts a year. But to have five concerts - in a row, with three on weeknights - is ridiculous. On a day that something happens in Croke Park I can't move the car after about noon, because there will be no parking space when I return. I can't get a train, because the train station is completely full. Buses are stopped at both sides of Clonliffe Road to pick up and drop off people going to and from the events.

I'm sorry you're missing out on a concert that you're looking forward to, I really am. But if the GAA and Aiken had listened to residents requests (which weren't a lot, the main one was that the concerts be changed to Friday/Saturday/Sunday/Friday/Saturday), things would have been a lot easier.

(Also, you should get a full refund back from Irish Rail because of how far in advance you're cancelling. Good luck to anyone getting refunds)

This +1

Well said.

peejay1986

sydthebeat wrote: »

are you telling me that the hotels, who would have hiked their prices originally because of demand, and now have the opportunity to receive payment "on the double" for each room not used.... are not guilty of greed???

that insurance rate (not only being extortinate!) could have meant the difference between a booking and not.

theres good business sense, and then theres good will.
Without these concerts these rooms would have been at a certain rate and would have struggled to be filled.
They are having their windfall ANYWAY.

if you think they are LOSING money, its you who needs to wise up.

Hahaha good luck in life if this is your attitude. Fight the power! :rolleyes:

sydthebeat

flasher0030 wrote: »

Hotels are not charities - they are a business, to make money to pay for staff, and hopefully reward the owners handsomely.

as i said above... the hotel ALREADY have their windfall with the 3 nights.
They are already making superprofits due to the allowed concerts.

the refusals will revert them back to their normal course of business, normal standard profits, normal costs of wages etc.

business does NOT have to equate to greed.

miju

CTYIgirl wrote: »

I'm reading this in dismay. To everyone who is losing out because their date is cancelled, I'm sorry. But as someone who spends between 3 and 5 nights a week living in the area around Croke Park, I'm delighted. Residents accept that GAA matches happen. Residents accept three concerts a year. But to have five concerts - in a row, with three on weeknights - is ridiculous. On a day that something happens in Croke Park I can't move the car after about noon, because there will be no parking space when I return. I can't get a train, because the train station is completely full. Buses are stopped at both sides of Clonliffe Road to pick up and drop off people going to and from the events.

I'm sorry you're missing out on a concert that you're looking forward to, I really am. But if the GAA and Aiken had listened to residents requests (which weren't a lot, the main one was that the concerts be changed to Friday/Saturday/Sunday/Friday/Saturday), things would have been a lot easier.

(Also, you should get a full refund back from Irish Rail because of how far in advance you're cancelling. Good luck to anyone getting refunds)

Think many of the 160,000 don't really care about the residents to be honest and I would imagine that there will be a certain element of disdain shown by people to the residents as result on the other 3 nights of the concerts.

Alot of sourness at the moment

sydthebeat

peejay1986 wrote: »

It does. Why should they give up their takings when they gave the buyer EVERY CHANCE to cover themselves if such an event happened? They've acted correctly, it's the buyer who felt the need to take the risk rather than shelling out €10-20 on the insurance in case this happened.

If they give back the money then there's really no point in having the 2 different rates in the first place.

You're being a bit innocent if you're expecting businesses which, having done nothing wrong, and having put the correct procedures in place, are going to hand back money knowing that most of those rooms are more than likely going to remain empty at this stage.

Wise up. Everyone has the right to run a business and make a profit, and so long as they didn't shaft people by giving them no insurance option, then I've no issue with the hotels. They're the least of the issues in the matter.

are you telling me that the hotels, who would have hiked their prices originally because of demand, and now have the opportunity to receive payment "on the double" for each room not used.... are not guilty of greed???

that insurance rate (not only being extortinate!) could have meant the difference between a booking and not.

theres good business sense, and then theres good will.
Without these concerts these rooms would have been at a certain rate and would have struggled to be filled.
They are having their windfall ANYWAY.

Why should they be out of pocket

if you think they are LOSING money, its you who needs to wise up.

FullBack Jam

sydthebeat wrote: »

none of which counters my argument that holding the bookings is nothing more than greed.

What sydthebeat says completely counters your argument that the hotels just hand the bookings back and that they are being greedy if they do not.

Hotels are not charities - they are a business, to make money to pay for staff, and hopefully reward the owners handsomely. It is not greed. To make money would be the primary reason why people work, and behind the brinks and mortar of a hotel building are such people.

Same with Ryanair or any similar service providers - if in the case of airlines, your flight is cancelled and you decided that you take the risk and not book travel insurance, then you lose out financially. But the decision was yours not to book the insurance. Same with hotels. One could have paid the extra for a refundable booking, but they made a calculated decision not too - on the basis of risk. And now it has backfired.

People make decisions every day based on risk, much of which has to do with financial implications – buying shares, buying property, various insurances. Some people take chances, some are more conservative. If someone makes a risky decision and it does not work out for them, then they cannot expect some other party to pick up the tab - irrespective of the sympathetic circumstances.

bennyl10

Larbre34 wrote: »

I wouldnt bother, nights 1-3 will soon be cancelled. Probably due to a combination of the contract being breached, Aiken going bust and the residents going to court anyway. Do not throw good money after bad.

I would imagine the first 3 will definitely go ahead.

Larbre34

shoppergal wrote: »

Don't know what to do. There are tickets on ticketmaster for the Sunday night. Afraid that if i buy them and something happens to save the Tuesday night that i'll be left with two lots of tickets.

Does anyone know likely is it that something will happen to allow the Monday & Tuesday night to go ahead?

I wouldnt bother, nights 1-3 will soon be cancelled. Probably due to a combination of the contract being breached, Aiken going bust and the residents going to court anyway. Do not throw good money after bad.

peejay1986

sydthebeat wrote: »

none of which counters my argument that holding the bookings is nothing more than greed.

It does. Why should they give up their takings when they gave the buyer EVERY CHANCE to cover themselves if such an event happened? They've acted correctly, it's the buyer who felt the need to take the risk rather than shelling out €10-20 on the insurance in case this happened.

If they give back the money then there's really no point in having the 2 different rates in the first place.

You're being a bit innocent if you're expecting businesses which, having done nothing wrong, and having put the correct procedures in place, are going to hand back money knowing that most of those rooms are more than likely going to remain empty at this stage.

Wise up. Everyone has the right to run a business and make a profit, and so long as they didn't shaft people by giving them no insurance option, then I've no issue with the hotels. They're the least of the issues in the matter.

LoonyLovegood

I'm reading this in dismay. To everyone who is losing out because their date is cancelled, I'm sorry. But as someone who spends between 3 and 5 nights a week living in the area around Croke Park, I'm delighted. Residents accept that GAA matches happen. Residents accept three concerts a year. But to have five concerts - in a row, with three on weeknights - is ridiculous. On a day that something happens in Croke Park I can't move the car after about noon, because there will be no parking space when I return. I can't get a train, because the train station is completely full. Buses are stopped at both sides of Clonliffe Road to pick up and drop off people going to and from the events.

I'm sorry you're missing out on a concert that you're looking forward to, I really am. But if the GAA and Aiken had listened to residents requests (which weren't a lot, the main one was that the concerts be changed to Friday/Saturday/Sunday/Friday/Saturday), things would have been a lot easier.

(Also, you should get a full refund back from Irish Rail because of how far in advance you're cancelling. Good luck to anyone getting refunds)

bennyl10

shoppergal wrote: »

Don't know what to do. There are tickets on ticketmaster for the Sunday night. Afraid that if i buy them and something happens to save the Tuesday night that i'll be left with two lots of tickets.

Does anyone know likely is it that something will happen to allow the Monday & Tuesday night to go ahead?

The Tuesday is gone, if it's reset new tickets will have to be bought.

shoppergal

Don't know what to do. There are tickets on ticketmaster for the Sunday night. Afraid that if i buy them and something happens to save the Tuesday night that i'll be left with two lots of tickets.

Does anyone know likely is it that something will happen to allow the Monday & Tuesday night to go ahead?

bennyl10

bluemachaveli wrote: »

I still reckon they would find a way. May not be above board but they would.

Ennis road lads would be grand, they would welcome Gareth with open arms and a bag of cans

Few cans of Dutch might do him.good before the show!

Sure the boys would have great craic showing the daughter molly's too

hynesie08

sydthebeat wrote: »

because its middle aged crowd on a monday and tuesday night going to garth brooks....

not a bunch of 15-16 yos going to swedish house mafia pissed and banging to the heavens.

some perspective please.

Yeah perspective, at every concert there's anti-social behavior. And from my experience it's the middle aged people who don't get out much who drink too much and can't control their bladder, but because they get pissed in a pub wearing a cowboy hat instead of topless in a field, it's written off as "the craic"

bluemachaveli

Larbre34 wrote: »

Yes but that depends on whatever planning laws are already in place for the City, no more than DCC they cant just make it up to suit the situation. And what of the Ennis Road residents?

I still reckon they would find a way. May not be above board but they would.

Ennis road lads would be grand, they would welcome Gareth with open arms and a bag of cans